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To: DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet
It would be very disappointing if this was true - that GWB would hold a grudge to the degree where he would not use a true champion like Dr Keyes when there are no champions left.

I do not understand where all of you, Keyes bashers, find these alleged "shots" at GWB.
I think you are just self-appointed, zealous "defenders" who attack Dr Keyes simply because his analysis and his speeches are a magnitude stronger that anything GWB could deliver; you (and probably DNC as well) just do not want to be compared to Keyes.

That is sad. Un-patriotic too.

13 posted on 11/10/2001 9:51:04 AM PST by Symix
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To: Symix
I think you are just self-appointed, zealous "defenders" who attack Dr Keyes simply because his analysis and his speeches are a magnitude stronger that anything GWB could deliver; you (and probably DNC as well) just do not want to be compared to Keyes.

Oh, puh-LEEZE. I couldn't care less about your comparisons, or who you deem to be "un-patriotic". You don't know a thing about me, and you're leaping to some wild conclusions. I did not "attack" Keyes, and I resent being lumped in with the DNC simply because I don't see why George W. Bush should demonstrate loyalty that Keyes has not earned.

Worship him if you like. I don't appreciate his treatment of the President (who happens to be a Christian, also). If that causes you to draw some conclusion about my morality, have at it. It means nothing to me.

14 posted on 11/10/2001 10:16:43 AM PST by DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet
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To: Symix
I do not understand where all of you, Keyes bashers, find these alleged "shots" at GWB.

Oh, really. Try this one from a Keyes speech on August 25, discussing the Bush stem-cell financing decision:

"I sit in front of a decision like that and I say this is a decision where somebody sat down to figure out how much evil they could get away with".

That one still sticks in the craw of a lot of Bush supporters and made a lot of Keyes fans into former Keyes fans.

Alan Keyes is intelligent, articulate and has stong convictions but he was tepid with his support of G. W. Bush following his nomination and went on the attack soon after the inaugration. The stem-cell decision threw Keyes into a real snit and nothing has changed.

I support Keyes duty and right to voice his convictions and his criticisms of the President but to expect the Bush administration to give this man the time of day would be beyond naive. Keyes has taken an adversary position toward Bush and in my opinion, although Alan Keyes has a fine understanding of many issues as well as strong positions on them but he appears to have no real grasp of politics and serves more as a commentator than anything else. Unfortunately, his commentary is often against Bush or his policies in some way, so cooperation between these two men is probably not possible at this point.

I believe both are happier this way. Dr. Keyes is free to attack Bush where and when he sees fit and Bush gets on with his Presidency, ignoring Alan Keyes. Works for me.

17 posted on 11/10/2001 10:37:34 AM PST by Jim Scott
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