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****Speech delivered by Clinton at Georgetown University****
http://www.georgetown.edu/admin/publicaffairs/protocol_events/events/clinton_glf110701.htm ^ | November 7, 2001

Posted on 11/08/2001 9:42:00 PM PST by Howlin

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To: Howlin
When I became president in January of '93 there were only fifty sites on the worldwide web

I met this slick hick once. He struck me as a pathological liar and devoid that had to have a script to communicate. I bet he believes every word of this. Watch him, as time passes he will become even more strange.

141 posted on 11/09/2001 6:19:44 PM PST by isthisnickcool
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To: Howlin
If that's not a separate thread, it should be.

It has been posted as its own thread.

any time he wants to associate himself with what is going on now, i.e., anything succesful or that Bush might get credit for, he uses the word "we." "We will win this." "We can do this." He tries to horn in on anything Bush does.

You know, that really stood out to me in this pathetic speech of Ex-president Scumbag's. He's always done it, true, but this time it leapt out. Maybe because of the stark contrast, for the first time, with Ex-president Scumbag and a successor president, a spectacle we didn't have to barf over until 1.20.01 (a most blessed day in the annals of world history).

142 posted on 11/09/2001 8:25:58 PM PST by GretchenEE
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To: Howlin
When I became president in January of '93 there were only fifty sites on the worldwide web.
Can that possibly be true?

Of course it is. He just forgot to add the preamble: "underage Asian porno filmed in Montana " before "web sites."

143 posted on 11/09/2001 8:35:20 PM PST by GretchenEE
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To: Bikers4Bush
I've never used that page

That really makes me curious - how have you negotiated your way to articles and posts on FR? Have you used only the "Latest Articles" page? (My PC takes forever to load that.) I LOVE the Latest Posts page, especially since JimRob added the Breaking News and Front Page or whatever the second heading is.

144 posted on 11/09/2001 9:01:04 PM PST by GretchenEE
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To: Samwise
“Freeping again, Mom?” Just one question: Does this make me an official member of the Vast Right Wing Conspiracy?

At the head of the pack.

Just think what a great example you are setting for your whelp by FReeping before noon AND having her lunch ready! See, it IS possible to be a VRWC member and do the chores, too. =)

145 posted on 11/09/2001 9:05:13 PM PST by GretchenEE
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To: PeaceBeWithYou
Thank you very much for that. It was very interesting reading, most of which I did not know.

What I don't understand is WHY he says things like that and why he thinks he might get away with them. Since I was already on the internet -- well, I will confess it was AOL -- when O.J. killed Nicole, I just KNEW it had to be a lie. I mean, if I, an comupter illiterate could be "online" then, how could there only have been 50 sites just a few years before.

BTW, you may be interested in THIS

146 posted on 11/09/2001 10:02:37 PM PST by Howlin
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To: Howlin
so many words.... so little said.

I don't care where he goes - he just needs to go the HELL away!

147 posted on 11/09/2001 11:08:21 PM PST by pittsburgh gop guy
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To: Howlin
When I became president in January of '93 there were only fifty sites on the worldwide web.

Can that possibly be true?

Yes, that is an interesting question. I know the internet grew fast but it seems to me I was plunking around compuserve when Bush was Prez.

Let me know if you get a difinitive answer on this. Thanks.

148 posted on 11/10/2001 1:08:48 AM PST by gogov
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To: GretchenEE
Your #32 observation deserves a separate thread. It isn't spin, but verifiable fact.

I once posted a John Edwards speech highlighting the word power which he used so often. One of his friends was peeved at me. The truth hurts.

149 posted on 11/10/2001 6:32:00 AM PST by Ragtime Cowgirl
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To: Howlin
..."the world I tired to build."....This low life has NEVER spoken in this life that he didn't try to take credit for something he had NOTHING to do with (unless he did cause something to go wrong and then blamed someone else)...Now he claims that HE created this wonderful diverse American experience...Last night Hugh Hewitt played audio of Bush before Congress, with Clinton's blame us crap sliced between. I wish I had a copy,and lots of money, and I would place this comparison on radio and TV from coast to coast.
150 posted on 11/10/2001 6:43:21 AM PST by Moby Grape
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To: Ragtime Cowgirl
I will run both the blubba speech and W's speech in Atlanta through Word's search feature and count the number of times each of the "I, me, my" words is used and post it on a separate thread - can't do it tonight, but probably can tomorrow.

It is pretty appalling.

For the record, I noted some readers didn't catch my not very prominent note that W's use of the personal pronouns, as with blubba's, covered only the first ten paragraphs, not the entire speech.

151 posted on 11/10/2001 6:26:15 PM PST by GretchenEE
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To: PeaceBeWithYou
Yes, the we/you transitions are odd. The line from post #53 that starts, "I honestly think..." almost sounds like an admission of guilty knowledge.
152 posted on 11/10/2001 10:04:42 PM PST by tuesday afternoon
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To: texasbluebell
Can someone direct me to the article on the Hillary Freep Thurs. nite? I read the Bill Freep article from Wed. Those DC Freepers were great.
153 posted on 11/10/2001 10:05:41 PM PST by Collier
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To: Verginius Rufus
I think he was talking about the Pres. of Georgetown.
154 posted on 11/10/2001 10:22:18 PM PST by Collier
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To: Howlin
LOL. That's kinda like this one.
155 posted on 11/11/2001 12:59:22 AM PST by PeaceBeWithYou
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To: tank_sherman
CHILDREN IS USED 5TIMES.
156 posted on 11/11/2001 1:03:44 AM PST by stocksthatgoup
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To: texasbluebell
BUMP
157 posted on 11/11/2001 1:05:30 AM PST by stocksthatgoup
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To: Howlin
Gene, Gene "The Clinton Analingus Machine" Lyons from FartSlop (best venue his addled rantings can get these days)

Gene Lyons: Right-wing media continue to savage Clinton

Many things have changed in this country since Sept. 11, but not the brazen distortions of the right-wing media nor the craven failure of "mainstream" journalists to confront them. The result is a decadent national press unwilling to stand up for the ethical standards that supposedly govern the "profession" of journalism, and a steep decline in the quality of public discourse in our democracy.

Last week saw yet another ludicrous, but ugly controversy stirred up by journalistic fraud. As usual, the malefactors were the Washington Times, the National Review, Fox News, Matt Drudge, Rush Limbaugh and his army of talk radio imitators. The hyperventilating shills of the World Wrestling Federation have nothing on this bunch. Even a normally skeptical Democrat-Gazette columnist got taken for a ride. Also as usual, the immediate target was Bill Clinton.



Next time you're flabbergasted by some preposterous lie in the gutter press of Baghdad or Cairo, remember that this bunch duped millions of credulous boobs into believing that Wicked Bill told a college audience, as one outraged letter to the Washington Times put it, that "America got what it deserves" at the hands of Arab terrorists. Or, as the Democrat-Gazette columnist wrote, that he delivered a "rant of  justifiable homicide" which "vindicated" Osama bin Laden. The fierce intellectuals of the National Review declared that having "pardoned the unpardonable, now [Clinton] has justified the unjustifiable."

Remember too that hardly anybody in our vigilant national media pointed out what an alert golden retriever would have suspected, that the whole flap was caused by a comically grotesque distortion of what Clinton actually said. Here's how it happened: on November 7, Clinton spoke at his alma mater, Georgetown University. A next day front page account in the Washington Times was misleadingly headlined "Clinton says U.S. is paying for its past." The article, written by one Joseph Curl, turned his speech upside down, insinuating that an inconsequential (and factually indisputable) aside he'd made about 19th century mistreatment of slaves and native Americans constituted an excuse for terrorism.

Almost the direct opposite is true. "I am just a citizen," Clinton said at the outset, "and as a citizen I support the efforts of President Bush, the national security team, and our allies in fighting the current terrorist threat. I believe we all should." Clinton brought up past atrocities only to illustrate his point that terrorism is morally abhorrent and militarily futile. "The killing of noncombatants for economic, political, or religious reasons," he observed "has a very long history, as long as organized combat itself, and yet, it has never succeeded as a military strategy."

At no point, did Clinton suggest any causal or moral connection whatsoever between America's ancient sins and contemporary terrorist acts. He did say that this country is "still paying a price" for its past.  Who can deny it?  But he also said that "the people who died represent, in my view, not only the best of America, but the best of the world. The terrorists killed people who came to America not to die, but dream, from every continent, from dozens of countries, most every religion on the face of the earth, including Islam. They, those that died in New York, the Pentagon, and Pennsylvania are part of a very different world and a very different worldview than those who killed them." He described the campaign against Osama bin Laden and Al Qaeda as a "struggle for the soul of the 21st century."

In a pungent essay on his Daily Howler website, Bob Somerby has shown that the phony claim that Clinton "basically said we are getting what we deserve in the terrorist attack," as a GOP spokesman parroted on CNN later that day, was created by techniques journalists profess to abhor: yanking partial quotes out of context and the dark art of malicious paraphrase. (Anybody who doubts me and wants to fight about it can find Clinton's entire speech online at Salon.com or the Georgetown University website. The rest of you can stick to the time-honored "Voices" tactic of name-calling. "Clinton apologist," with its heady whiff of Stalinist orthodoxy, is the one Washington professionals prefer.)

Even the Clinton-phobic pundit Andrew Sullivan, after denouncing the former president before troubling himself to read the speech, subsequently admitted that the Washington Times account was "appallingly slanted."

Yet nary a syllable was emitted by the so-called "liberal Establishment" press. Washington Post media critic Howard Kurtz produced a bemused item about the right's obsession with Bad Bill, but nowhere hinted at the Times' unethical methods. It's simply not done. Two reasons:  first, it's seen as futile, like starting a campaign to convince 20 million morons that pro wrestling is fixed. Second, fear. The crack-pot ideologues of  the far right are shameless, relentless, and well-funded. Why provoke them merely to defend democratic values?

158 posted on 11/16/2001 1:27:09 PM PST by an amused spectator
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To: an amused spectator
Perhaps Mr. Lyons needs to reread paragraphs 5 and 6, eh?
159 posted on 11/16/2001 1:27:10 PM PST by Howlin
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To: *Clash of Civilizatio
Bumping for the list.
160 posted on 12/14/2001 9:01:26 AM PST by denydenydeny
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