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To: ouroboros
Unlike the Christian West, the Muslim world has never had crises of faith like the Reformation and the Enlightenment.

Oh really?
And this goofball presents himself as a knowledgeable expert?
I can hardly wait to hear his explanation for the 3 main mutually-hostile flavors of Islam and the dozen or so minor offshoots.

Kinda clouds his credibility, ya think?

25 posted on 11/08/2001 12:50:17 PM PST by Publius6961
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To: Publius6961
Agreed. The House of Islam had its crisis of faith in the 11th and 12th centuries. There was a long and often bitter debate between the rationalists and the fundamentalists, ably documented by Ibn Rushd and Al Ghazali, respectively.

Ibn Rushd worked mightily to do for Islam what Aquinas had done for Christianity - to reconcile pagan philosophy and revelation. His life work was a commentary on Aristotle. And it was people like him who kept alive the magnificent science, medicine, and philosophy of medieval Islam.

What went wrong, quite simply, is that the fundies won. Imagine a US in which not just Evolution, but almost every scientific finding is outlawed, including genetics, the germ theory of disease, Newton's laws (no, Ali, apples drop because Allah wills it), and so on. That's what happened to Islam.

I've not participated in the Islam bashing here, but now I'll say this: Islam and the West are on a collision course, and the only way to prevent a catastrophe is, indeed, to "de-fundamentalise" Islam. As it happens, we are doing the exact opposite, and have been for years. The heart of modern Islamic fundamentalism is Wahhabism; the sole major supporter of this sect is the House of Saud. And the House of Saud exists only becase the US props it up, as it has done for decades.

That is a contradiction in foreign policy that must be resolved.

63 posted on 11/08/2001 6:46:24 PM PST by John Locke
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