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bumping.
5 posted on 11/08/2001 11:21:05 AM PST by patent
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To: patent
Wonderful news about Fr. Pavone.

I recently had occasion to defend my own stance on LIFE and the entire scope of the "pro-life at all stages" fight for the unborn, fairly simply and also effectively.

After hashing through the standard excuses for exclusion, the cases of rape and incest ... the use of fetal cells, etc ... we discussed the logic for my own passion for life in terms of a living child and mother and what we would do in defense of those two figures, particularly in regard to a life threatening danger to a newborn and his Mom.

We totally agreed that the defensive fight for the Mom and her infant would be violently strong and possibly result in a "noble" death for the defender, but worthwhile to save those lives at any cost.

We proceeded to the second point of having been deprived of our rights to be involved in such a fight through mis-appropriate interpretation of laws, which deny our basic and constitutional rights to even protest at an aboratorium

After agreeing to the scientific proofs of even atheistic scientists, that the unborn have separate and singular identities proven in their DNA ... we finally agreed that the analogy of the Mother and the NEWBORN was no different, providing we honestly believe that life is to be treasured from conception to the grave and therein lies the rub.

Conscious or not there is some sort of mental categorization which assigns more value to the born than to the pre-born and that is why we are so forgiving and acceptance of incrementalism. This is the nature of this particular flaw of mental reservation that so many are using today ... to the detriment and death of the unborn.

This use of mental reservation concedes only a "categorized right to life", rather than realization that pre-born life is indeed LIFE of a HUMAN BEING, with attendant rights. How we have arrived at the notion that it is somehow LESS PRECIOUS and LESS ENTITLED TO LIVE than the already born, is one of all of society's biggest banes. It just does not make good sense.

Let us pray for those who have the unborn in their care!
8 posted on 11/08/2001 11:48:39 AM PST by AKA Elena
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I pray that Father Pavone is allowed to stay on the front line of the Pro-Life war.
13 posted on 11/08/2001 1:16:01 PM PST by EODGUY
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BTTT
17 posted on 11/08/2001 3:36:35 PM PST by firewalk
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To: patent
bumping back
23 posted on 11/08/2001 11:25:40 PM PST by Roscoe
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Thanks. I firmly believe that legalized abortion has succeeded mostly because the horror of what abortion actually is has been suppressed. The billboards tell the truth and shatter the lies. God bless Fr. Pavone for all he has done to get the truth out there!
29 posted on 11/10/2001 2:49:45 PM PST by smorgle
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