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To: Texaggie79
TexAggie, A&M must have really turned 180 degrees around. Most Aggies I know don't consider property rights so flippantly.

Cooper had already written a considerable amount on a topic he felt he had been given private exposure to which involved an intricate mother of all conspiracy theories.

He wrote about it and publicized it out of concern and loyalty enuniciated in the ilk of our Constitution and Bill of Rights.

That doesn't mean he was correct in everything he wrote, but IMHO he did devote considerable effort to document many of his beliefs and derived those beliefs in large part from personal experience and his personal research. i.e. he performed due diligence.

The fellow he threatened wasn't the type to take a hint, nor was he the type to be intimidated. But as a third party observer of hearsay, it's obvious that a man living on his own property surrounded by BLM real property has more interests vested in that real property than a stranger. Given Cooper's past public exposure of a conspiracy which he considered quite persuasive, it really isn't necessary for any stranger to continue to pursue Cooper onto Cooper's real property, i.e. trespass.

It might also be noted amongst those who are serious with weapons, that armed intimidation generally isn't employed. If the accusation that Cooper was an armed aggressor was true, then Cooper would have shot the trespasser without a verbal diatribe. The report that Cooper encountered the trespasser before the trespasser reached any other private property or property with possibly more interest by others than Cooper only reveals that Cooper respected his fellow man sufficiently to communicate to the trespasser that Cooper's interests had been violated to an extent beyond the uninformed might understand.

If I trespassed on somebody's property, I'd expect the same if not worse to happen to me.

Why do you believe you can intimidate a person on their own personal real property in rebellion to their property rights and then have the audacity to act insulted if they defend themselves?

22 posted on 11/08/2001 3:21:42 AM PST by Cvengr
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To: Cvengr
TexAggie, A&M must have really turned 180 degrees around. Most Aggies I know don't consider property rights so flippantly.

If you've followed this Aggie's posts over the last year or so, you would know that he is an aberration. But, I think many of these posters are correct. Cooper and his ilk (including Alex Jones to whom I cannot listen) give credence to the arguments of those marginalizing "right-wing militias".

The militia members that I know include physicians, lawyers, businessmen, upstanding people--even the lawyer. But that characterization will never be publicized. Only the Coopers.

23 posted on 11/08/2001 3:32:27 AM PST by jammer
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To: Cvengr
If I trespassed on somebody's property, I'd expect the same if not worse to happen to me.

Sorry, you need to pull your head out.

I've been around and owned guns my entire life and have used them in both a professional and non-professional basis. If there's one thing I've learned is that you NEVER EVER pick one up in anger ...EVER.

Your notion that guns are to be used on "trespassers" is dumb. Guns are used to protect. Whether it's protecting your life, your family, your property, your country or freedom. They're not to be used to make a point, win an argument. The whole problem with guns is people who use them to exercise their will. From the common criminal to Josef Stalin those who do so are part of the problem not the solution.

This is why incidents such as Ruby Ridge, Waco and Elian Gonzales are so unjust and absurd. Because people (in these cases the Feds) used dangerous weapons simply to exercise their will. This Cooper d00d was no better than they.

I don't feel sorry when a bully with a gun gets his body "air conditioned", be it the bullies at Waco or this asshole. In fact I find a strange sort of satisfaction in it.

As a fellow second amendment suppoter, you should know this. I'm asking you to rethink your position on "real property".

41 posted on 11/08/2001 2:13:14 PM PST by AAABEST
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To: Cvengr
Why do you believe you can intimidate a person on their own personal real property in rebellion to their property rights and then have the audacity to act insulted if they defend themselves?

First off, I fully respect property rights. But just because you own a piece of property does not mean that you should put the barrel of a gun to any person that steps on it.

In the real estate appraisal business, I must go on other people's property all the time. They have no idea I am coming, they go through the bank, and the bank places the order with us. Most homeowners don't realize that someone actually will come to their house when it is a drive-by. When I drive onto these people's property and they are there, they usually walk out and inquire what I am doing in a very polite manner.

I get kind of nervous on the large estates that are very secluded. Surprisingly, they are usually the kindest ones. These people even ask me to come in for something to drink sometimes. They do not run out with a rifle telling me to leave immediately. Sure they have a right to do it, but that is purely uncalled for, and anyone that would do that would immediately raise my suspicions as to their activities.

However in the case of Cooper there is absolutely no right to threaten lives of people that are on property that you THINK is yours, but in fact is not.

44 posted on 11/08/2001 2:40:54 PM PST by Texaggie79
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