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What really happened to William Cooper.
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| 11/8/01
| TaZ
Posted on 11/07/2001 10:37:51 PM PST by TaZ
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Note: I had recently decided not to frequent FR, but with William Cooper's death, I came back to see what kind of response his demise engendered. The posts I read are so ridiculous that I felt it necessary to post my thoughts in a new thread, along with the audio link that succinctly illustrates what happened to Cooper, a man I found very hard to take serious. I tried to listen to him, but I find that people like Alex Jones (who I also find hard to listen to) are more worthy of my time to. Good Patriot radio should be a clearing house for information, with legible documents to back it up. People who just espouse their theories and beliefs IMHO should get down off the soapbox and stop taking themselves so seriously. In Mr. Coopers case, it appears that he bought his own rhetoric hook, line and sinker, which resulted in his own death and the critical wounding of what was possibly a Peace Officer who respects the TRUE spirit of this Nation.
My indifference to William Cooper has turned to disgust. He has just thrown mud on the Patriot movement to which he imagined he was the leader.
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posted on
11/07/2001 10:37:51 PM PST
by
TaZ
To: TaZ
This should induce some very interesting responses.
Be sure to listen to the audio, which is towards the middle of Alex Jone's broadcast, before you formulate your opinions.
Of course for most of you, I'm sure you will just blindly respond with your prejudice seeking instant gratification. TaZ out...for sure this time.
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posted on
11/07/2001 10:41:55 PM PST
by
TaZ
To: TaZ
My indifference to William Cooper has turned to disgust. He has just thrown mud on the Patriot movement to which he imagined he was the leader. I don't think he has harmed the patriot movement if the movement is willing to do the research, as you have, and then speak out that, just as any group, there are those that for whatever reason just go too far. I salute your effort and hope some on here do not label you a "turn coat" or Government "shill" for doing so.
To: TaZ
I say that there are true patriots, and there are people so obsessed with control that they pretend to fight for "liberty" but instead are simply beating their chests. William was no different than the terrorists we are currently fighting. They are so immersed in the propaganda and lies about the US gov that they are practically fighting something that is simply not there. And in doing so, they hurt the innocent ones that just so happen to be in the place of where these extremists have directed their paranoid delusions.
To: TaZ
The fact that a law enforcement officer was critically wounded (killed?) speaks volumes about Cooper.
Of course, the right-wing equivalent of the "Free Mumia" crowd will be out to support him.
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posted on
11/07/2001 11:03:03 PM PST
by
xm177e2
To: TaZ
The Doctor is a local man who grew up in Eagar, and returned to establish a practice following medical school. Cooper was so enraged at the Doctor trespassing "on his mountain" that he walked down off from the mesa and put a gun in the doctor's face when he answered the door, saying "If you ever come up on my mountain again, I'll kill you."What is it about the Ruby ridge militia types that they must threaten the lives of anything and anyone that steps onto their property?
We have some around here. The no tresspassing signs are almost a decoration, they are so prevalent. Why is it that they really want people to know that they will be shot dead the second the accidentally touch their property?
To: TaZ
At first, I was speculative regarding the initial press releases issued by the Apache County Sheriff's Office. We have seen the evil NWO media dog's spin before.....
![](http://www.co.apache.az.us/images/cowblink.gif)
The Apache County Sheriff's Office - a tool of the NWO? Not.
Thanks for the update.
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posted on
11/07/2001 11:07:29 PM PST
by
ppaul
To: xm177e2
Apache County Deputy Rob Marinez took two bullets to the head. He's expected to survive. The deputy used to live in Mesa and friends there say he's the sort of cop you want to have around if things get tough.
Deputy Marinez is married and has three children.
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posted on
11/07/2001 11:15:02 PM PST
by
lonevoice
To: TaZ
Not all folks going to this site wear "Tin Hats". I certainly don't give Alex Jones any time. Thanks for the post, and visit FreeRepublic more often.
To: lonevoice
Dear GOD, may you heal the police officer quickly and completely, and keep he and his family safe.
Amen
To: TaZ
Cooper sounds like a nut case to me.
I never knew him, but I have lived in the Springerville-Egar-Greer-St. Johns, Arizona area. It's very rural and agricultural and not much there to do with the NWO that I'm aware of. Lots of pot heads and tweakers though.
To: xm177e2
The fact that a law enforcement officer was critically wounded (killed?) speaks volumes about Cooper.Now wait a minute. That is a very broad brush you are painting with. Just because someone is in law enforcement doesn't give them an automatic pass towards hero status. As much as I would like to believe every man and woman who takes the oath when given the badge, will hold that oath as close to thier heart as they hold thier dearest loved one, some don't.
In general, I am more likely to believe the officer, but I do not automatically give them a pass, and you shouldn't either.
In this case my heart goes out to the officer, who I understand is going to live, and say a prayer for his family. For Cooper, I say, Live by the paranoid anti-government rhetoric, die at their hands.
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posted on
11/07/2001 11:39:22 PM PST
by
snodog
To: TaZ
bump
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posted on
11/08/2001 12:27:51 AM PST
by
Nogbad
To: TaZ
I don't know much about Cooper. I believe he showed-up in Sandpoint Idaho in support of the McGuckin children and for that I respect him. But if Cooper was being served with a warrant, well that's legal and constitutional, and Cooper should have known that. Sorry to see a good man go down the wrong way.
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posted on
11/08/2001 1:20:07 AM PST
by
GVnana
To: TaZ
People go over the edge sometimes. Sounds like Cooper was paranoid to the point of madness. He shouldn't have resisted arrest. Suicide by cop it sounds like to me.
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posted on
11/08/2001 1:28:46 AM PST
by
Movemout
To: TaZ
Thank you for the info. This is one sad case all the way around. May God bless your family.
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posted on
11/08/2001 1:30:48 AM PST
by
exnavy
To: TaZ
I don't know anything about William Cooper, except that the reports of his demise sound hinky. However, a cop with a warrant can kill you if he wants...it has happened before. My judgment is still out on Mr. Cooper.
To: Texaggie79
What is it about the Ruby ridge militia types that they must threaten the lives of anything and anyone that steps onto their property? If they think they own the land they reside on, try skipping paying the proprty taxes.
To: TaZ
It sounds like Cooper committed "suicide by cop."
Not an unusual event in the world of whack-jobs...
To: TaZ
Didn't he jump out of a plane with a parachute over Oregon, carrying a bundle of cash? Wasn't he never heard from again?
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posted on
11/08/2001 2:51:51 AM PST
by
Illbay
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