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I'd tend to agree. I'm a self admitted paper MCSE. However, I let my employer know that up front before I was hired, and I didn't apply for jobs that required me to run whole networks on the basis that I read books about them. My only gripe before I found a job was that the entry level job market for this field seemed to be fairly small (and probably due to the reason that people with MCSE's were hired without having much experience, if any, and burned their employers). It is the same old story that applies with getting a loan. You need good credit to get a loan, yet to get good credit you need a loan. And here, you need experience to get a job, yet to get a job you need experience. Oh well, like many have said here before, SQL and other database certs are probably the way to go. I can't imagine businesses surviving without them.