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JOSEPH SOBRAN: "Weighing the Costs"
Sobran.com ^ | October 23, 2001 | Joseph Sobran

Posted on 11/06/2001 11:22:18 AM PST by ouroboros

One reason the Middle East has always baffled me is that we hear such contradictory things about the state of Israel. Israel’s defenders make it sound like heaven; its detractors make it sound like hell. On the one hand, its citizens, including Arabs, enjoy liberties denied by most states in the region; on the other hand, it deals harshly and cruelly with non-Jews, especially in the occupied territories.

A Christian has to be particularly disturbed by the recent killings of innocent Christians, including children, in Bethlehem, the birthplace of Christ. The exact circumstances are unclear, because our news media don’t report much on the plight of Christians in the region; but it’s hard to believe these violent deaths were unavoidable. Were they inflicted by weapons supplied by the United States?

The question is not whether Israel is heaven or hell; it’s neither. It’s a deeply troubled country, and the real question, for Americans, is whether the fate of the United States should be tied to it.

It’s understandable that the Israelis should want U.S. support; but what is the cost to Americans? There is the monetary cost, in billions of tax dollars per year; there is the hatred of this country that is exacerbated, if not wholly caused, by the U.S.-Israel alliance; and that hatred has now cost thousands of American lives, with the toll rising.

It would be one thing if Israel’s American advocates frankly admitted the costs and argued that America has nevertheless gained more than it has lost by the alliance. But they don’t. They talk as if the alliance has been all profit to this country, with no downside. They contend that the 9/11 attacks had little or nothing to do with the U.S.-Israel alliance.

Some of Israel’s advocates are even arguing, as former Israeli prime minister Benjamin Netanyahu does, that Arabs hate Israel because of the United States, and not vice versa! Even by the standards of political propaganda, which assumes the stupidity of the masses, this is absurd. If it were true, the Israelis would end their ties to the United States in a flash.

A decade ago, Patrick Buchanan was accused of anti-Semitism for referring to Israel’s “amen corner in this country.” But nobody denied that such an Amen Corner exists, including many journalists, Christian as well as Jewish, who constantly urge the U.S. to go to war against Israel’s enemies — especially, at the moment, Iraq.

To acknowledge this is to incur the charge of raising “the canard of dual loyalty.” Now it would be grossly unfair to accuse all American Jews of giving their chief loyalty to Israel. But that some Jews do it is beyond question. What is the pro-Israel lobby in this country seeking, if not at least the partial sacrifice of American interests to Israeli interests? That’s what lobbies are for: sacrificing general interests to particular interests. Farmers’ lobbies do it, labor unions do it, big corporations do it. They always pretend that what is good for the narrow interest is good for everyone, just as the pro-Israel lobby always argues that what is good for Israel is good for America.

The pro-Israel lobby never acknowledges that there may be sharp divergences between the two countries’ interests. Having read its literature for many years, I can’t recall a single case when Israel’s advocates have said: “Policy X would be to Israel’s advantage, but it would hurt the United States, so it should be avoided.” Even “dual” loyalty would sometimes put U.S. interests first.

Worse than the pro-Israel lobby itself are the American politicians who constantly pander to it. They act on the assumption that Jewish voters and campaign donors place Israeli interests above American interests. And as long as they act on this assumption without putting it into words, nobody comments on the “anti-Semitic” implications of their behaving as if the “canard” were solid fact.

Even when the Israelis kill American sailors or steal American military secrets, these fine Americans never express outrage or demand investigations. Nothing could better illustrate the sagacity of George Washington’s warnings against the “foreign corruption” to which republics are susceptible.

Israel has become so dependent on American aid that even to ask for candor about the interests at stake is to risk the charge of being “anti-Israel” — as if seeking the unvarnished truth amounted to declaring war on Israel. Israel’s defenders imply that Israel depends not only on America, but on false propaganda. Don’t they ever listen to themselves?


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1 posted on 11/06/2001 11:22:18 AM PST by ouroboros
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To: Agrarian; Mercuria; diotima; sheltonmac; Either/Or; Askel5; mrustow; UnBlinkingEye...
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2 posted on 11/06/2001 11:28:28 AM PST by ouroboros
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To: ouroboros
bump for consideration.
3 posted on 11/06/2001 11:32:10 AM PST by Chicago Guy 2
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To: ouroboros
I believe that the United States and Israel, each country for its own reasons and it its own way, are flagships of the western civilization and both countries are under attack for that reason.

However, I agree with the author: the supporters of Isreal need to make the case for themselves, be it a civilizational argument along the lines that I presented, or some other argument.

4 posted on 11/06/2001 11:50:57 AM PST by annalex
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To: ouroboros
Here is an interesting article that substantiates the assertion of common destiny of us and Israel, that I just made in the post above. The article takes a broader view on conflicts between civilizations on different stages of development, but many concrete examples there are about Israel and its predicament.

Defense of Liberty: Attila In a Boeing

5 posted on 11/06/2001 11:55:18 AM PST by annalex
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To: ouroboros
Former Israeli prime minister Benjamin Netanyahu says that Arabs hate Israel because of the United States, and not vice versa!

This is absolutley NUTZ. Have we entered the Twilight Zone?

8 posted on 11/06/2001 1:07:26 PM PST by Patria One
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To: annalex
Can you give me even two reasons why you think Israel is a "flagship"?

(They have been at war with their neighbors for 60 years or so and they are the largest ever recipients of Foreign Aid in modern history.What's Flagship about that?)

9 posted on 11/06/2001 1:10:54 PM PST by Patria One
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To: Patria One
If the Arabs didn't have Israel to kick around, they'd focus totally on the U.S., and you are all naive if you don't believe that.
10 posted on 11/06/2001 1:18:49 PM PST by Hildy
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To: ouroboros
Joe is right...again. But, he has been falsely accused many times of being an anti---, anti-S----, oh, don't say it, you can't say it, it's the worst thing anyone can be called. OK we won't say it.

the most abused bogus excuse for lack of objective dialogue is this term. And I won't say it, because it often means nothing more than intimidating someone into shutting their mouth and foresaking the truth.

11 posted on 11/06/2001 1:19:49 PM PST by gohabsgo
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To: Patria One
1. The only country in the Middle East that is run democratically.

2. Judaism, as a religion based on the Old Testament, is at the foundation of the Western culture.

12 posted on 11/06/2001 1:20:43 PM PST by annalex
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To: annalex
Israel hardly passes for a democracy, but I don't one way or another if they are, or are not a democracy.

Why do you feel the need to reform the government of people living half way around the world?

13 posted on 11/06/2001 1:23:27 PM PST by Patria One
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To: lucretius
Bin Laden hates his fellow Arabs as much as the USA. He cares not a bit for the Palestinians bastards, nor do you. Bin Laden hates the west, and you hate the Jews. So go suck your thumb.
14 posted on 11/06/2001 1:23:47 PM PST by imperator2
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To: lucretius; AppyPappy; IowaHawk
But our nation will never do the right thing because it is controlled by Jewish interests.

FreeRepublic too, BWAHAHA!

Lousy debut, lucretius.

15 posted on 11/06/2001 1:28:48 PM PST by dighton
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To: annalex
I believe that the United States and Israel, each country for its own reasons and it its own way, are flagships of the western civilization and both countries are under attack for that reason.

You must be kidding, Israel can be hardly called a "Western" country, let alone a "flagship".

16 posted on 11/06/2001 1:30:54 PM PST by madrussian
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To: ouroboros
'canard' is Yiddish for "a truth which shall not be spoken". Or at least that's what I infer from its usage.
17 posted on 11/06/2001 1:31:05 PM PST by AshleyMontagu
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To: ouroboros
It's always funny to watch reactions to Sobran. The Amen Corner proves his points every time!
18 posted on 11/06/2001 1:33:16 PM PST by AshleyMontagu
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To: Patria One
Israel hardly passes for a democracy

Israel has competitive elections that on a number of occasions changed the course of that country.

Why do you feel the need to reform the government of people living half way around the world?

I don't feel such need in general. When the Western civilization to which I belong is attacked by bastards I would like the government where the bastards live to punish them as criminals and preempt future attacks; when a cooperation from those governments is not forthcoming, I wish to change them.

19 posted on 11/06/2001 1:35:15 PM PST by annalex
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To: madrussian
Israel can be hardly called a "Western" country

see #12 as to why.

20 posted on 11/06/2001 1:36:54 PM PST by annalex
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