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To: hopespringseternal
You are eternally wrong hopesprinseternal! Christians owe their very faith and existence to the Jews, through them came the Word by which you must live, not only hear. Through them came Messiah Yeshua, whom you must get acquainted with. Jesus was not born of a church canon, He does not proceed from the "fathers of the faith". And He is coming back to Israel, not to New Hampshire, San Francisco, Europe, Asia or any Arab state. If you are truly a Christian, you need to repent of your anti-semitism and look into the Word to discover your personal Hebraic roots. The Bible which you may have read states: Paul speaking:

"I say then, has God cast away His people (the Jews)? Certainly not! For I also am an Israelite of the seed of Abraham, of the tribe of Benjamin. God has not cast away His people whom He forenew.....I say, have they stumbled that they sould fall? Certainly not! But through their fall, to provoke them to jealousy, salvation has come to the Gentiles (Christians among them)......For if their being cast away is the reconciling of the world, what will their acceptance be but life from the dead?...If some of the branches (the Jews) were broken off, and you (Christians) being a wild olive tree, were grafted in among them, and with them became a partaker of the root and fatness of the olive tree, do not boast against the branches (the Jews). But if you boast, remember that you do not support the root, but the root supports you....their hardening in part has happened to Israel until the fullness of the Gentiles(people like you hopespringseternal) has come in. And all ISRAEL will be saved. Read Romans 11.

You need to know that Your God says about Israel, repentance is available to you for judging them as discarded, praying for the peace of Jerusalem and for God's plans to be established Israel is wisdom and obedience to the One who saved your soul.

52 posted on 11/06/2001 11:48:10 AM PST by Hila
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To: Hila
I said Jesus was not a Pharisee, not that He wasn't a Jew.

And I have read Romans 11, enough to know that it doesn't contradict the rest of the bible with regards to apostate Jews. The old covenant was fulfilled in Christ who established a new covenant with His blood. The old covenant no longer exists.

Those who maintain there is a way to please God outside the blood of Christ are not Christians, no matter what they call themselves.

60 posted on 11/06/2001 12:07:08 PM PST by hopespringseternal
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To: Hila
You need to know that Your God says about Israel, repentance is available to you for judging them as discarded, praying for the peace of Jerusalem and for God's plans to be established Israel is wisdom and obedience to the One who saved your soul.

Well, He said to preach the gospel to all nations, which includes Israel (I refer to the people Israel, not the state of), so don't get offended at proselytizers. ALL people must repent of their sins, anti-semitism being but one. And I owe my faith and existence to Jesus and God alone.

I know you were responding to someone else, and that person was too much in one direction, but you sound like the other side of the same coin.

62 posted on 11/06/2001 12:10:28 PM PST by wimpycat
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