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We still are not done with the archetype question and you are trying to move on. In the passage quoted we are only told that Yeshua was speaking with "The Jews." To John, "The Jews" meant the residents of Judea. We do not know the scholarly make-up of the crowd. We know that Torah is the first five books of Moses. Yeshua knew that also. However we don't know what the crowd new nor how they referred to the Psalms. For all I know, they believed the entire TANAK was Law. If you know otherwise (scholarly research, not personal speculation) then I am open to learning it. But later. It is not part of the original point.

Oh, I'm not trying to move on.... I posted yet another example which by the way you sidetepped. In Psalms 82 isn't the writer calling the gods 'wicked'?

For all I know, they believed the entire TANAK was Law. Indeed. All the better and easier to deceive them, eh? The Jews would/should have known... but the gentiles could be easily deceived by such a statement/comment!

Hope this one is simple enough for you! I haven't been trying to move on, its just that these things are intertwined. And I DO plan to get back to the disagreement between James and Paul. But, I'll wait until you are ready. As for finishing the archtypes, I doubt we will ever agree on them. But they are there just the same.

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Oh, I'm not trying to move on.... I posted yet another example which by the way you sidetepped. In Psalms 82 isn't the writer calling the gods 'wicked'?

Yes, but I fail to see your point. Yeshua was discussing how the prophet ascribed these words to G-d Himself. Do you think the Psalm was calling G-d wicked for referring to these rulers as gods?

Shalom.