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U.S. Uses Huge Bomb Against Taliban Forces
Associated Press ^ | November 5, 2001 | staff

Posted on 11/05/2001 5:47:46 PM PST by Lady In Blue

Nov 5, 2001

U.S. Uses Huge Bomb Against Taliban Forces

The Associated Press

WASHINGTON (AP) - With its use of the 15,000-pound "daisy cutter" bomb in Afghanistan, the United States has unleashed one of its most powerful weapons - billed as the world's largest conventional bomb.

The BLU-82 combines a watery mixture of ammonium nitrate and aluminum with air, then ignites the mist for a huge explosion that incinerates everything within up to 600 yards. The shock wave can be felt miles away.

The BLU-82 uses about six times the amount of ammonium nitrate explosive that Timothy McVeigh used in the bomb that blew up the Oklahoma City federal building in 1995.

First created during the Vietnam War to quickly clear jungle landing zones, the daisy cutter also was used against Iraqi troops during the Gulf War. Reports from the ground in Afghanistan indicate the huge bombs have been used against front-line Taliban positions.

The bombs cost about $27,000 each. They are dropped from a C-130 cargo plane flying at least 6,000 feet off the ground, to avoid the bomb's massive shock wave. Each is more than 17 feet long and 5 feet in diameter - about the size of a Volkswagen Beetle but far heavier.

AP-ES-11-05-01 2047EST

This story can be found at : http://ap.tbo.com/ap/breaking/MGA6ASS1PTC.html


TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: daisycutter; oef; taliban
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To: Cthenthar The Pre-Ordained
may you be treated as you treat others. i anticipate your judgment.
201 posted on 11/05/2001 9:47:55 PM PST by nocommies
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To: Clinton's a liar
OK, now THERE'S an idea! Place your logo on the side of one of these...I'd say the companies in the WTC's would be the first to contribute, eh? Guys, this is awesome. I hope we git 'em. Dead, not alive.
202 posted on 11/05/2001 9:50:30 PM PST by Brad’s Gramma
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To: Cthenthar The Pre-Ordained
Those people over there want your modern ass dead as well as anyone else. We are given the option of kill or be killed. I'm not too fond of the later option.

Don't you have some thing better to do?

203 posted on 11/05/2001 9:50:43 PM PST by oyez
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To: garycooper
Pay no attention to the man behind the curtin. Disruptor alert.
204 posted on 11/05/2001 9:52:40 PM PST by capitan_refugio
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To: Boston Capitalist
As has been said here many times in the replies, the bomb hovers in on a parachute, close to ground and then goes boom! The delivery is dropped at 6,000 feet or higher (not 30,000).

What hasn't been said here is a comment about the "overpressure." This thingy makes a 1,000 lb sq in overpressure which--aside from those things not blown to small burning pieces--crushes everything crushable to death. That includes all vertebrates, from the surface down to very, very deep (how far?--some expert FReepers here know.)

205 posted on 11/05/2001 9:57:38 PM PST by Rudder
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To: GuillermoX
LOL Yes, that is the question, isn't it!
206 posted on 11/05/2001 9:57:54 PM PST by brat
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To: Clinton's a liar
Yes...I can see it now: HUGE picture of Miss Cleo shaking her head saying, "Death for all, Miss Cleo don't lie."
207 posted on 11/05/2001 10:05:18 PM PST by brat
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To: doug from upland
He's too gutless to return and defend his own convictions when no harm can come to him- so he probably is the type who would stand by and do nothing while his family and friends are murdered, his sister gang-raped, and his country destroyed.
208 posted on 11/05/2001 10:05:33 PM PST by piasa
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To: SW6906
Your point is well-taken and well-illustrated.

Let me take issue with a little bit of your history. You might want to read "The Fleet the Gods Forgot" by Capt (Ret.) W.G. Winslow. He was an officer on the cruiser Houston (CA-30) in 1941-42, and was a survivor of her sinking in combat. The ABDA fleet, though thoroughly destroyed by the superior numbers of Japanese vessels, inflicted considerably more damage then they are usually credited with.

209 posted on 11/05/2001 10:08:03 PM PST by capitan_refugio
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To: Lady In Blue
The bombs cost about $27,000 each.

Easily the biggest bang for the buck in the US arsenal. Why are we not dropping hundreds per day?

-ccm

210 posted on 11/05/2001 10:10:02 PM PST by ccmay
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This BLU-82 was payback to the Iraqis for shooting down the AC-130 gunship "Spirit 03", during the battle for Khafji.

Eleven were dropped during the Gulf War. These huge cans of explosive were fitted with 4-foot daisy-cutter fuses and rolled out of the back of Hercules transports, to descend to earth under a parachute while the aircraft left the area as quickly as possible.

The blast effect of the BLU-82/B was compared to the effect of a giant hand sweeping over the desert for miles around. They had a terrible effect on the morale of Iraqi troops, and drops of these large bombs were often accompanied by leaflets stating that more of them were coming.

The image on this simple Gulf War leaflet is that of a super-explosive "Daisy Cutter" bomb, which the U.S. used to shock Iraqi troops out of their wits. The message reads: "Flee and Live, or Stay and Die!"

DHAHRAN, SAUDI ARABIA (April 18, 1991) Lt. Gen. Walter Boomer, the commander of the U.S. Marines in the gulf, had visions of his men bogged down in the minefields of Kuwait, slowly being picked off by Iraqi artillery. He had to find a way through.

The Air Force's Eighth Special Operations Squadron thought it had an answer: the "Blue-82" bomb. At 15,000 pounds, the bomb is the size of a Volkswagen Beetle. Also called the Daisy Cutter, the BLU-82 was used to carve out and level airfields in Vietnam. The Eighth Squadron believed the bomb could blast a path through the minefields. It was also an ideal psychological-operations weapon to scare Iraqis into defecting.

Armies generally prefer to shoot, not talk. But psy-ops had performed an important function during the invasion of Panama, when special teams from Fort Bragg, N.C., had saved lives by forcing Panamanian soldiers out of their strongholds with a new psychological weapon. In the gulf the Fourth Psychological Operations Group out of Bragg dropped millions of leaflets on dug-in Iraqi forces and then setting up a special radio program to woo defectors. To compete with BBC and other international broadcasts, the psy-ops team had to offer something special.

What the "Voice of the Gulf " began broadcasting, along with prayers from the Koran and testimonials from well-treated Iraqi prisoners, was precise information on the units to be bombed each day, along with a new, silent psychological technique which induced thoughts of great fear in each soldier's mind. Iraqi soldiers began tuning in to the "Voice of the Gulf." "It's a quick way to increase your market share," said psy-ops commander Col. Edward Singleton, with a smile. Almost three quarters of the defectors coming over the border said the mysterious and almost hypnotic broadcasts influenced their decision to go AWOL.

The men of the Eighth Squadron believed that the BLU-82 bomb could send an even more powerful message. In the early-morning hours of Feb. 7, Maj. Charles Bingington's MC-130E Combat Talon cargo plane lumbered off the runway. In its belly sat the massive bomb. Behind Major Bingington, a companion plane lifted off, carrying another BLU-82 (Bingington and his wingman became known as the Blues Brothers).

The day before, their target area had been rained with leaflets warning the soldiers below: "Tomorrow if you don't surrender we're going to drop on you the largest conventional weapon in the world." The Iraqis who dared to sleep that night found out the allies weren't kidding. The explosion of a Daisy Cutter looks like an atomic bomb detonating. In the southwest corner of Kuwait that night, an enormous mushroom cloud flared into the dark. Sound travels for miles in the barren desert, and soon Iraqi radio nets along the border crackled with traffic.

Col. Mike Samuel, Schwarzkopf's special-operations commander, cabled a message back to the U.S. Special Operations Command headquarters in Florida: "We're not too sure how you say 'Jesus Christ' in Iraqi." A British SAS commando team on a secret reconnaissance mission near the explosion frantically radioed back to its headquarters: "Sir, the blokes have just nuked Kuwait!"

The next day a Combat Talon swept over the bomb site for another leaflet drop with a follow-up message: "You have just been hit with the largest conventional bomb in the world. More are on the way." The victims below didn't need much more convincing. The day after the BLU-82 attack, an Iraqi battalion commander and his staff raced across the border to surrender. Among the defectors was the commander's intelligence officer, clutching maps of the minefields along the Kuwait border. The intelligence bonanza enabled Central Command officers to pick out the gaps and weak spots in the mine defenses. When the ground war began Marine and allied forces breached them within hours.

Brought to you by AFSOC. Air Commando motto: "Anytime, Anyplace".


211 posted on 11/05/2001 10:44:53 PM PST by spectr17
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To: anniegetyourgun
In fact, someone needs to create something that works like a nuke but isn't a nuke.

Actually, there is a way, in theory, to produce a neutron bomb like device without a fission trigger. This device...

...uses an implosion to create the necessary pressure. That pressure could be enough to start a tritium reaction in the core. A reasonably sized device could yield ~.9 kt. It is, in effect, a "clean" nuke.

212 posted on 11/05/2001 11:26:40 PM PST by Redcloak
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To: Nuke'm Glowing
$27,000? Where do we send our money to?

Lets all chip in and get one with the FR logo painted on the sign. I'll volunteer to go help deliver it.

213 posted on 11/06/2001 12:01:14 AM PST by Straight Vermonter
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To: rightwing2
Although the bomb has an explosive weight of only 13,000 pounds, FAEs are approximately 7 to 10 times more effective than conventional bombs because they utilize the atmospheric air as an oxidant and they have a slower pressure wave. Hence the bomb is about the equivalent of 100,000 pounds explosive power or about 50 tons. That would put it at .5 kilotons. Not too shabby.
214 posted on 11/06/2001 12:15:29 AM PST by wretchard
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To: Bogey78O
You forgot one:

4. No current Freeper by that name.

215 posted on 11/06/2001 12:24:49 AM PST by Tony in Hawaii
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To: anniegetyourgun
Michael Savage calls peaceniks, "freeze dried hippies" ... LOL
216 posted on 11/06/2001 12:39:59 AM PST by Terrorista Nada
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To: Lady In Blue
The question of the day is, "Will those Daisy Cutter bombs stop an Ayres AY-65 combat crop duster from flying over Mississippi and up the river north to St. Louis and Chicago, or west to Texas, New Mexico, Arizona, and Southern California, spraying anthrax or smallpox?
217 posted on 11/06/2001 12:53:40 AM PST by Terrorista Nada
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To: SW6906
I agree with some of what you are saying, but let's be honest,the size, capability, might and sophistication of the Taliban military is not on the same caliber of that of Japan during WWII.
218 posted on 11/06/2001 5:31:16 AM PST by garycooper
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To: anniegetyourgun
LOL!
219 posted on 11/06/2001 5:51:52 AM PST by Silly
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To: oyez
they are already right next to China.
220 posted on 11/06/2001 5:55:23 AM PST by FreeAtlanta
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