[FreeTally]

You cant go wrong with any of the .40 Glocks(23/27).

You mentioned the 12 gauge for home defense - always a good choice. Winchester or Moss. are always good and not too expensive.

You might want to consider a Marlin lever action carbine rifle. They are pretty short(18 to 20 in barel) and come in .38 and .357 models. These hold 8 to 10 rounds. You can conceal these even in a vehicle pretty easily.

[ScreamingFist]

"You might want to consider a Marlin lever action carbine rifle. They are pretty short(18 to 20 in barel) and come in .38 and .357 models."

And the Winchester Trapper (18 inch barrel) comes in .44 Mag. :)