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Voter ID Before the Wisconsin Assemby Tomorrow
GOP e-mail | 11-5-01

Posted on 11/05/2001 5:55:17 AM PST by afraidfortherepublic

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To: Unalienable
Requiring proof of citizenship, and proof of age, may be reasonable although difficult to implement. Specifying the specific sort of ID required to vote should be avoided.

What makes me uncomfortable about this bill is that, although it's to prevent voter fraud, it's one step closer to a national identity card. And if the state requires this card to vote, who is going to bear the cost? The state or the individual voter? Will this be litigated as a form of poll tax?

Although I should be enthused about this bill because it helps voter fraud, it's one more computerized list I'm going on (complete with personal information) and I don't like that idea. I know that if this becomes a requirement to vote in Wisconsin, the GOP has lost two votes: my vote and my husbands, because we will not get voter ID cards to vote.

41 posted on 11/05/2001 8:24:13 AM PST by Catspaw
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To: irish guard
Give me the stinky cheese....a picture ID or some kind of proof!

Agreed.

42 posted on 11/05/2001 8:25:02 AM PST by afraidfortherepublic
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To: Catspaw
I know that if this becomes a requirement to vote in Wisconsin, the GOP has lost two votes: my vote and my husbands, because we will not get voter ID cards to vote.

And are you planning to forego your social secruity check because you don't like having a SS card? do you have a Passport? How about credit cards? Are you in the phone book? Do you ever shop at Sam's club?

Excuse me, but I think you offer a very poor reason for giving up your vote. I hope you rethink your opposition. Our Freedom is too precious to lose over a card.

43 posted on 11/05/2001 8:29:34 AM PST by afraidfortherepublic
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To: WIMom
In Wisconsin, a driver's license, a gas or electric bill with your name and address, or some other similar of document was used in the past. The last time I voted, I was not asked for anything.

Since I've done both in this state, I can tell you that it is, by far, easier to vote without being challenged for proper ID than it is to buy a gun. It seems that once your name is on the list of registered voters for your polling place, the little old ladies are utterly satisfied to have you simply tell them who you are, what district you're in, and your address. Some of the MOST gullable people in our society are manning the polls (not directed at those of you who are simply elderly - big difference).

44 posted on 11/05/2001 8:30:56 AM PST by brewcrew
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To: concerned about politics
They had vans to drive the homeless, the addicts, the drunks, to the polls.

Shoot, they provided meals on Election Day last year in some locations either before or after you voted.

45 posted on 11/05/2001 8:31:12 AM PST by mafree
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To: Catspaw
By the way, almost all states in the Union require a voter card or that you show proof of citizenship and register several months in advance so that the registrar can check you out. Wisconsin is the exception.

With the added problem of allowing people to register at the polls, lack of a voter card means no controls whatsoever. I'm not going to throw away the system of government that my ancestors fought for (4 Revolutionary War veterans) over a card!

46 posted on 11/05/2001 8:33:57 AM PST by afraidfortherepublic
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To: afraidfortherepublic
If the id card is foolproof, i'm all for it. If someone can holler that their civil rights were violated in the implementation of security, then we have a Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton can of worms which could be enforced by the justice department.....I was certain that is what they were shooting for in the Florida recount.
47 posted on 11/05/2001 8:34:30 AM PST by usual suspect
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To: Jack Barbara
If voter fraud is stopped, voter participation will fall to less than 10%.
Then we can sell it to the DemonRATs, who like the idea of low voter turnout, while making them forget that the 10% that will turn out actually care.
48 posted on 11/05/2001 8:38:40 AM PST by steveegg
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To: afraidfortherepublic
Isn't anyone concerned about "disinfranchising" our voters? sarcasm/off
49 posted on 11/05/2001 8:41:28 AM PST by Seattle-ite Nottagay
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To: afraidfortherepublic
I'm not going to throw away the system of government that my ancestors fought for (4 Revolutionary War veterans) over a card!

Sorry--I think it's intrusive. And I don't live in any other state--that's like saying, "all the other kids do it." I live in Wisconsin, and I don't like this law. It's a typical politician's knee-jerk reaction to a highly publicized event without thinking too very deeply about it.

Our decision not to vote if a voter ID card is required is not a decision we made on a whim. My husband and I discussed this indepth, and if this passes and is signed into law, we will not be getting voter ID cards. We don't think of it as forfeiting a right, but refusing to exercise a right over an overburdensome government.

And who is going to be paying for these voter ID cards? And who is going to be paying for the administration of the voter ID cards? I suspect very deeply that the state will have to develop a whole new bureacracy to manage this, plus more of a bureacracy on a county and municipal level. No thanks. And last time I looked, "the state" translates into "money out of my pocket." This state has had its hands deep in my pockets for many a year--they don't need to be soaking me for any more, thank you very much.

50 posted on 11/05/2001 8:43:33 AM PST by Catspaw
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To: afraidfortherepublic
ID bump
51 posted on 11/05/2001 8:45:20 AM PST by the crow
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To: hexpoppy
ANYTHING is better than what we have now. They don't check out anything now and the problem is that the dems know the people who don't vote and have someone give that name without no ID. The problem is that they will find another way to cheat the system. Character doesn't count to the dems The end justify the means.

We also need to have laws that put you in jail for at least 10 years for vote fault, unlike now where you get fined $200.

I know one thing, Wisconsin really went for Bush, but the dems stole the election here, in some black areas there were more votes than voters. </B.�

52 posted on 11/05/2001 8:47:04 AM PST by factmart
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To: afraidfortherepublic
Talk show host Michael Savage has a similar plan on his Paul Revere Society  website to stop vote fraud, click here to read the plan.  I also took the plan and saved it in .pdf format, click here for the .pdf, when you see it, you'll see that there is a perfectly worded proposition for all citizens to present at their next precinct convention or to their legislator.
53 posted on 11/05/2001 8:54:28 AM PST by BUSHdude2000
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To: mafree
They were FREE meals.
54 posted on 11/05/2001 8:56:13 AM PST by WIMom
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To: CPT Clay
She was fined $2000. She has millions. Big deal.
55 posted on 11/05/2001 8:57:41 AM PST by factmart
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To: Catspaw
I appreciate your thoughfulness, but I think you are looking at this the wrong way. The State of Wisconsin has set us up to have our elections stolen through fraud. That is how these politicians who want to have their hands in our pockets get elected. Do you approve of that?

If you don't like a voter ID, then are you willing to fight against the current system of registration at the polls and motor voter? That will be far harder to over turn.

As far as the cost, I am willing to pay for it because we would finally see fair elections. I hope you take the time to rethink your position.

56 posted on 11/05/2001 9:04:23 AM PST by afraidfortherepublic
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To: Catspaw
You may think it's intrusive, but the voter identification laws were written back when that little old lady at the polls most likely knew you since you were born and probably even changed your diaper once or twice. Society was much less transient then than it is now. I appreciate your sentimentality over this issue, but the time for change has come. It is time to adapt.

It's either that or we just let the best cheaters win.

57 posted on 11/05/2001 9:05:17 AM PST by brewcrew
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To: Catspaw
Do you object to showing identification that you already have when you register or vote, such as a notarized birth certificate, notarized naturalization papers, or a valid US Passport?
58 posted on 11/05/2001 9:14:10 AM PST by afraidfortherepublic
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To: Catspaw
ANYTHING is better than what we have now. They don't check out anything now and the problem is that the dems know the people who don't vote and have someone give that name without no ID. The problem is that they will find another way to cheat the system. Character doesn't count to the dems. The end justify the means.

We also need to have laws that put you in jail for at least 10 years for vote fault, unlike now where you get fined $200.

. I know one thing, Wisconsin really went for Bush, but the dems stole the election here, in some black areas there were more votes than voters. </B.

Only dems would not want voter ID card,unless you are "Dumb Republican". We lost 5 states to Gore because of voter fraud. �

59 posted on 11/05/2001 9:19:58 AM PST by factmart
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To: afraidfortherepublic
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60 posted on 11/05/2001 9:56:32 AM PST by afraidfortherepublic
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