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Posted on 11/05/2001 4:57:09 AM PST by JohnHuang2
America, perhaps naturally, is one of the countries where Muslims have raised their voices most loudly to condemn those who perpetrated the attacks on Sept. 11.
Ok guys have any of you heard loud voices of Muslim concern in America? If our's has the loudest voices, the rest of the world had best be very worried!
This piece is garbage!
You'd be amazed at how many people say they are against the deaths of innocents... but when you push them, turns out they don't care about the deaths of innocents at all, as long as it isn't traceable to them.
Shoot, all you have to do is read the first 9 chapters of the Koran. That'll be enough.
The mild-mannered Pakistani accountant comes out of his mosque in which the homily has urged the destruction of Infidels and says, "Well I certainly do not agree with those ruffians." and goes about his business. He says (only to us)that he is a 'moderate' Muslim.
The man is dissembling. What that means is precisely nothing. There is no central governing body in Islam, there is not even a consentual basis for saying what Islam is, or Islam is not.
Islam is what Muslims do. What Muslims do is pray five times a day, give alms to the poor, fast during Ramadan, make the Haj and slay, among others, Christians from one end of the world to the other, from Kosovo, to Macedonia, The Sudan, Indonesia, and the Phillipines.
What our mild-mannered 'moderate' Pakistani friend has done, while cashing a Western paycheck, wearing pants, and enjoying the wonders of Western lifestyles, including the plumbing, is entirely miss a key point of Western Civilization, which so tolerantly furnished these benefits to him and his family.
If the Missouri Synod of the Lutheran Church were to be under threat of take-over by hatred-spewing, snake-handling, strychnine-drinking preachers who ordered their congregations to violently overthrow the American government and to maim, enslave, and kill those who resist conversion, it certainly would not be tolerated beyond the first Sunday.
Yet these 'moderate' Muslims attend service after service where violent conversion and the overthrow of Western Governments is preached and where funds are collected(including from them, I am sure) to support violent and illegal activity. This is happening in my home town, and probably in yours. Yet we Westerners foolishly tolerate it.
Moderate Muslims: your hypocritical claim to moderation is a crock. We are still burying our dead, while in the mosque you attend and support, further horrors are being planned for us. There is no rational reason to tolerate the presence of any group in the United States which demands the surrender of our way of life or religions.
Muslim moderates: If you are serious and mean what you say, go home. Preach moderation in your land. Preach it to the Taliban.
I wish someone would define a "moderate muslim" for me. The impression I get from the media is that a moderate muslim is one who will condemn the violence against the US (at least publicly), but who "understands" violence against Jews - whether they're in Israel or anywhere else.
Perhaps they were encourage by the thought of them using the sword against others?
I don't know how much of a stretch it is. I have noticed that there is a great deal of anger in the African-American converts to Islam (that I've dialoged with). I don't think I've dialoged with a single Islamic who didn't have negative attitudes towards Jews and had no problem expressing those attitudes. The "best" I have found is that there are some who "condemn" violence against Israel but then throw in something about Israel's behavior. I haven't met one yet who condemns violence unequivically.
Perhaps. Some seem very young to have criminal records, but......
If Islam is the fastest growing religion in the United States, than whom besides Black convicts and ex-con's is converting?
Is it? Who is doing the counting?
This is what I have really been wondering about.
Well, if it is, America is doomed.
That's right. The State and Islam intertwine, and the Muslim governments are against their own people. Indiscriminate violence, and terror by opposition groups and between factions, are an integral part of failed politics.
They also insist that they will only be credible abroad if they express themselves honestly - and that generally means criticizing aspects of US foreign policy. But if they silence their criticisms to avoid charges of treachery from their neighbors, moderates say they will not be taken seriously in the Muslim world.
Right, they have to prove themselves and show their loyalty to the Muslim world.
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