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To: Dataman
Your answer, the mechanism exists because we observe the results, can just as easily be used for design.

I described the mechanism, though maybe not all too clearly. In a nutshell, the design mechanism is negative feedback (natural selection), with the tolerance spec being effective reproduction. The process is fed with the vast quantity of chaos and energy ultimately supplied by the sun for the most part.

Note that this is a very good design process for extremely complex systems, and as human engineering gets more complicated, we rely on this type of design process more and more. You let a system randomly interact with itself and apply a filter to the results that looks for stable forms. Most of the stuff a chaotic system generates is utter crap or mediocre at best, but it occasionally generates truly useful and interesting designs purely by chance. High performance mechanical systems are frequently designed this way; I know for a fact that recent generation hard drives are. You may wonder how modern hard drive designs emerged by filtering chaos, because it seems improbable, but it does work and it turns out to be a more efficient design process in many cases than "traditional" engineering.

217 posted on 11/06/2001 12:38:15 PM PST by tortoise
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To: tortoise
it turns out to be a more efficient design process in many cases than "traditional" engineering.

Impressive, amazing, etc etc. What is needed from secular materialist apologists is less talk, more substance; less computer animation, more testing of theory; less government-funded propaganda, more free inquiry; and certainly a cessation of apeal to the miraculous.

222 posted on 11/06/2001 1:05:22 PM PST by Dataman
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