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Justice Department won't let (FBI) agent testify (in Nichol's state trial)
Indianapolis Star ^ | November 3, 2001 | JAMES PATTERSON

Posted on 11/03/2001 12:15:30 PM PST by OKCSubmariner

Edited on 05/07/2004 6:26:27 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

While Terry Nichols, already convicted on federal charges in the 1995 Oklahoma City bombing, returned to court Monday to face the state's case against him, the government was squirming to squelch evidence that Nichols and Timothy McVeigh did not act by themselves.


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To: malador; LSJohn
George Wallace said way back in '68 that there wasn't a dime's worth of difference in the Republican and Democrat parties

While Wallace was running for president in 1968, I heard him speak in Pensacola, Florida. That phrase is the one quote I distinctly remember from his speech. Concerning the Democrats and Republicans, I agreed with him then, and I agree with him now. I also agree with your "not a penny's worth of difference now."

They both support:

(1) aggrandizing the socialist U. S. Education Department;

(2) the United States protecting, supporting and bringing to power Muslim terrorists and drug-runners in Kosovo;

(3) building-up the Vietnamese and Chinese Communists;

(4) the abandonment and betrayal of American fighting men from WWII, the Cold War, the Korean War, and the Vietnam War;

(5) the Clinton/Bush immigration policies which have put our country at risk;

(6) the OKC cover-up;

(7) the TWA 800 cover-up;

(8) the degrading of American sovereignty;

(9) the meek acceptance of widespread FBI criminality, incompetence and arrogance; and (10) countless other evil actions of the same ilk.

On the other hand, the differences are "great." One will support more money for pre-school programs, the other won't. And let us never forget that one will support a larger tax break - that makes everything else acceptable to about one-half of the voters. The other half are paid-off with Government largesse.

161 posted on 11/04/2001 5:05:29 PM PST by Judge Parker
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To: Judge Parker
I continue praying for her and for y'all ... to have the desire of your heart, that she can be restored and live with you! Praise God!!!
164 posted on 11/04/2001 7:48:17 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: OKCSubmariner
Bush is taking way too long to replace the Clintonistas in the Fed bureaucracy. He has replaced very few. BUsh has had more than enough time to find plenty of well qualified conservative Republicans to replace the Clinton Bozos. Please, Please do not expect me to believe otherwise, I won't buy the excuses.

Another great post on an important topic...My understanding was that the Dems are blocking or refusing to vote on many Bush appointments.

165 posted on 11/04/2001 7:51:13 PM PST by moonhawk
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To: Tymesup
How can John Ashcroft expect us to believe anything he says when he deals out stuff like this? Thanks for keeping us informed.

This goes way way above Ashcroft, he is just the spear carrier here. I like Bush but he is covering for Clinton on this. We will never ever learn the truth about OKC from the U.S. Government. The deal, whatever it is, is made and the concrete has set.

166 posted on 11/04/2001 7:55:48 PM PST by InterceptPoint
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To: OKCSubmariner
It never changes, Lie, Lies and more Lies even with Ashcroft in charge.
167 posted on 11/04/2001 7:59:31 PM PST by Jimbaugh
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To: BlueDogDemo
no stoli here, boss.

btw, is that a long distance call?

168 posted on 11/05/2001 3:17:53 AM PST by thinden
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To: LSJohn
--I AM happy that at least in the case of okc there are starting to be rumbles out of higher areas in government. You simply can't have thousands killed and the nation scared, and the obvious lack of followups on the various terrs, and not have people in government who are patriots notice the discrepancies. Those people are getting MAD as well, and with some of their own bosses and with the policies that have been in place for years and years. Government failures and past globalist goon policies are now killing people, openly, and it's being seen. Happy to say it, it's looking like maybe more and more that the cover-up/crook factions in government are being challenged openly by the patriot/honest people. It's still at a public low level, but in private I'd bet a nickel it's building up some steam. Wouldn't bother me for a second for them to do a reverse slow stage counter-coup, or fast for that matter, and take back government "for the people". Yes, risky, but if enough of them can be made to see the light and demand honesty, to not be afraid to speak out, to build coalitions, then we have a chance. I sincerely hope it's going on now. We just need to put that cyber-lever into that crack in the dam better, and keep adding pressure, eventually that crack will widen and perhaps reality will spill out more. Two things will help cause that to happen, my opinion, one, if people can stop being blind party loyalists, admit that sometimes their party or their particular leaders are 'wrong" on this or that issue, and two, convince enough folks in government to grow back a set of nads and openly challenge the bogus crap that they see goping on.

I would seek more allies, and less divisiveness, without forgetting about the scandals and crookedness. With the reality of the wtc attacks, the vast numbers of thoroughly wrong and shouldn't be here furriners slinking around conus, etc, it's starting to be too hard for those plutocrats to keep a lid on things. Too many nco level grunts in the bureaucracies of the agencies held out for years, held their noses during the slimers admin, now that they are seeing that the shenanigans continue, I think they are raising an internal ruckus.

If we can just really get a single one of the coverups cracked, and get some high level official moronic goons put in jail, it might start the snowball downhill into avalanche reality. We're starting to crack the media monopoly, this whole internet deal was a miscalculation on the goons part, it's allowing people to exchange ideas and information. Yep, they are trying to plug the loopholes, but are several steps behind in technology, carnivore or whatnot not withstanding.

We ARE having a good effect..The information IS getting out. Even the professional and true-believer pro fascist government shills are getting desparate, their coverup-itis attempts are more pitiful by the day.

169 posted on 11/05/2001 5:48:09 AM PST by zog
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To: zog
I hope you're right that the coverups will eventually fall apart. As the singer Aaliyah found out, if you overload a plane, it doesn't matter if you're a star.
171 posted on 11/05/2001 6:29:12 AM PST by Tymesup
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To: zog
You're right -- if there weren't lots of good people on the inside we wouldn't know 25% as much as we do. In addition to the really good ones, a lot more would prefer to be honorable; a critical mass could be reached where large numbers of those cross the line from holding noses and keeping mouths shut to protect careers/livelihood and start speaking out.

Crack one of the major coverups wide open and it could change things dramatically.

172 posted on 11/05/2001 7:22:00 AM PST by LSJohn
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To: BlueDogDemo
Hmmm...
How does that oath go again...Something about protecting the Constitution from all enemies foreign and domestic...

Now lets see, do these people qualify as domestic enemies of the constitution?

Hmmmm...
What to do if the answer is yes?

A couple of tough questions for those that take their oaths seriously.

173 posted on 11/07/2001 7:14:51 AM PST by Triple
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To: OKCSubmariner
btss
174 posted on 11/07/2001 9:17:14 PM PST by Free Vulcan
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To: Free Vulcan
bttt
175 posted on 11/07/2001 9:23:32 PM PST by LSJohn
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To: OKCSubmariner
How can they get away with such horrendous illegalities? Hillfanny/Bimbo Shredder trained?
176 posted on 11/07/2001 9:25:53 PM PST by Quix
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To: LSJohn
It sure could change things and wouldn't that be the Greatest feeling on God's Green Earth!
178 posted on 11/07/2001 9:35:43 PM PST by horsewhispersc
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To: Ronneil; LSJohn; Judge Parker; Nancie Drew; golitely; Fred Mertz; honway; rwz; AtticusX...
For reply #177:

Which one of several OKC videos do you recommend? Could you give me a title and a source for the one you are referring to since there are several videos already out there. Or is this for a new video just released or about to be released? Welcome aboard the FreeRepublic! I noticed your membership date was November 7, 2001.

179 posted on 11/07/2001 9:42:17 PM PST by OKCSubmariner
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To: Triple
An honorable man and worman takes their oath seriously, I find those at Liberty Lobby to be, maybe more will join them. Let's pray!
180 posted on 11/07/2001 9:43:16 PM PST by horsewhispersc
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