[Patria One]

There was no Israel either until 1948, but Palestine is mentioned by Shakespeare and Chaucer.

In 1903 at the Zionist Conference in Basel Switzerland the speakers, who were European and American Jews, constantly referred to "Palestine".

[Ragtime Cowgirl]

There was no Israel either until 1948, but Palestine is mentioned by Shakespeare and Chaucer.

Moses my servant is dead; now therefore arise, go over this Jordan, thou, and all this people, unto the land which I do give to them, even to the children of Israel.

God. Joshua 1, vs.2. ~2000 years BC (or ~3560 years before Shakespeare).

Muhammed, the founder of Islam, lived from about 570 AD - 632 AD.

[Mr. Snrub]

Palestine was a name made up by the Romans after they caused the diaspora. It was derived from Phillistine, a people the Israelites wiped out hundreds of years earlier. The romans called the lands of Judea, Samaria, etc., Palestine as an insult to Jews they committed genocide against.

Read Joseph Farah on WND, he knows the truth that PALs are afraid to admit.

[razorbak]

Dumb statement: There was no Israel until 1948

From a few thousand years ago we read in the Bible:

Gen.15:18 In the same day the LORD made a covenant with Abram, saying, Unto thy seed have I given this land, from the river of Egypt unto the great river, the river Euphrates:

Deut.11:24 Every place whereon the soles of your feet shall tread shall be yours: from the wilderness and Lebanon, from the river, the river Euphrates, even unto the uttermost sea shall your coast be.

Josh 1:1 Now after the death of Moses the servant of the LORD it came to pass, that the LORD spake unto Joshua the son of Nun, Moses' minister, saying, 2 Moses my servant is dead; now therefore arise, go over this Jordan, thou, and all this people, unto the land which I do give to them, even to the children of Israel. 3 Every place that the sole of your foot shall tread upon, that have I given unto you, as I said unto Moses. 4 From the wilderness and this Lebanon even unto the great river, the river Euphrates, all the land of the Hittites, and unto the great sea toward the going down of the sun, shall be your coast.

1Sam.13:19 Now there was no smith found throughout all the land of Israel: for the Philistines said, Lest the Hebrews make them swords or spears: 20 But all the Israelites went down to the Philistines, to sharpen every man his share, and his coulter, and his ax, and his mattock. 21 Yet they had a file for the mattocks, and for the coulters, and for the forks, and for the axes, and to sharpen the goads. 22 So it came to pass in the day of battle, that there was neither sword nor spear found in the hand of any of the people that were with Saul and Jonathan:[great pro-2nd amendment argument here] but with Saul and with Jonathan his son was there found.

Ezek.37:11 Then he said unto me, Son of man, these bones are the whole house of Israel: behold, they say, Our bones are dried, and our hope is lost: we are cut off for our parts. 12 Therefore prophesy and say unto them, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, O my people, I will open your graves, and cause you to come up out of your graves, and bring you into the land of Israel. 13 And ye shall know that I am the LORD, when I have opened your graves, O my people, and brought you up out of your graves, 14 And shall put my spirit in you, and ye shall live, and I shall place you in your own land: then shall ye know that I the LORD have spoken it, and performed it, saith the LORD.

[Anamensis]

In 1903 at the Zionist Conference in Basel Switzerland the speakers, who were European and American Jews, constantly referred to "Palestine".

There's been a "Sahara desert" for a long time too... to have a name to refer to a region means nothing in and of itself. Palestine has never been a self-ruled place. It was always under someone else. Why stop now?

[Right Wing Professor]

Genesis 32 was written in 1948?

I don't think so. I'll see your Shakepeare and Chaucer and raise you two millenia.