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To: Fixit
I read that about the greentips also. The 62 grain NATO greentips were maximized for long range accuracy and penetration, but (according to Blackhawk Down) they zipped right through adrenaline pumped enemy like icepicks, without tumbling, or dumping much energy.

So I would say yes, go with the 55grain stuff, it tumbles, and causes worse wounds.

BTW, the Russians are way ahead of us in military bullet (slug, not cartridge) technology. Their 5.45mm bullets use a hollow space just behind the tip, then a steel penetrator, then a lead "driver". The slug is balanced for accuracy in flight, and as soon as they hit flesh, the driver and penetrator push forward into the air space, causing the center of gravity to flip, and the bullet to keyhole like mad, always coming out backwards or sideways. The Afghans and Chechens really fear them, and call them "poison bullets".

Another "field expedient" for your .223 ball ammo is to take strong wire cutters (dykes) and clip off the front 1/8" of your bullets. This is hell on long range accuracy, but ensures the slugs will be keyholing and tumbling into their targets. I have not done this, but some old VN jungle fighters (close range engagements) told me about it.

124 posted on 11/02/2001 9:57:14 PM PST by Travis McGee
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To: Travis McGee
A brief note. I put a 55 grain soft tip through a piece of 1/4" tool steel as an experiment. the steel in question was a bosch shovel tip from my big roto hammer. I was really surprised. Looked like it had been punched on a 50 ton press. When using same to drop dear ( I raise them) I always go for a head or neck shot as a hair shot will usually mean an extended search for the recipient. I much prefer they die instantly too. I'm convinced all that running around and panic is bad for the product.
129 posted on 11/02/2001 10:12:47 PM PST by mercy
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To: Travis McGee
So I would say yes, go with the 55grain stuff, it tumbles, and causes worse wounds.

The 55 is better stabilized than the 62 in any barrel. If you want something marginally stabilized like the 55's were in the the 1-14 original M-16 you would need a slower twist or a heavier bullet.

141 posted on 11/03/2001 6:29:10 AM PST by Nov3
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To: Travis McGee
"clip off the front 1/8" of your bullets"

A better effect is the Nosler Ballistic Tips or the Horandy TAP. They "explode" on impact and penetrate 1/4 steel, no problem. With their polymer tip, the bullets have a natural lubricant for steel and other hard targets.

Also, a grinder works perfectly on 55 gr ball for nipping the tips. The result is a very jagged wound channel.

154 posted on 11/03/2001 8:20:26 AM PST by PatrioticAmerican
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