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What Separates The U.S. From The Terrorist Nations Of The World?
Toogood Reports ^ | Weekender, November 2-4, 2001 | Lee R. Shelton IV

Posted on 11/02/2001 11:59:31 AM PST by Starmaker

This question will be construed by many to be unpatriotic, un-American, and simply uncalled for. Many will scoff at the idea that such a question should even be addressed, but I believe it is one that we should ponder. Why? Because we are currently attacking another nation for carrying out acts of mass destruction that pale in comparison to what we ourselves have done.

Before I'm tarred, feathered, and ridden out of town on a rail, let me just say that I support the idea of a legitimate, just, and, yes, even moral war. I believe such a war can and should be declared when the security of the citizens of the United States is directly at risk. After all, the primary job of the federal government, contrary to the modern teachings of liberal and neo-conservative collectivists, is to provide for the common defense of the nation. If the security, liberty, and lives of its citizens are threatened, the government has a sworn duty to eliminate that threat.

Unfortunately, most of the conflicts we have seen in the last century were the result of the federal government ignoring its obligation to the immediate defense of our own nation in order to pursue more global concerns. Can anyone make the case that the conflicts we saw in places like Korea, Vietnam, Panama, Iraq, Haiti, Somalia, and Bosnia had anything to do with protecting the freedom of American citizens?

Now, the same people who were so quick to send soldiers off to kill and die for democracy overseas while ignoring the government's assaults on our liberty here at home are calling for unity in battling yet another foreign enemy. Perhaps our current predicament calls for some serious self-examination.

In our nationalistic frenzy we have been so intent on rooting out evil overseas that we have failed to notice the sins of our own nation. Again, I ask, what separates the U.S. from the terrorist nations of the world?

Many would say that we have a much greater respect for life and would never consider unleashing the kinds of atrocities we saw on September 11. Attacking innocent civilians with such cold-blooded calculation is beyond our comprehension. This kind of thinking lends credence to the old adage "ignorance is bliss."

During the last "just" war, World War II, the U.S. made it standard military procedure to specifically target civilians. German cities like Hamburg and Dresden were subjected to some of the most intense bombing raids in history. Even Japanese non-combatants in Tokyo could not escape the relentless firebombing. This policy of attacking civilian targets culminated in President Truman's order to drop the atomic bomb on Hiroshima and Nagasaki. The result of these kinds of attacks throughout the war was a civilian death toll that climbed into the hundreds of thousands. Our government deliberately utilized this kind of warfare in order to strike terror in the hearts of foreign civilians. Sound familiar?

Needless to say, we do not have to look outside our borders for examples of the very evil we claim to loathe. Case in point, abortion. Since the unconstitutional Roe v. Wade decision was handed down by the Supreme Court in 1973, we have witnessed the government-sanctioned murder of over 40 million innocent children. This is an accomplishment that even the worst terrorist nations cannot claim. Why have we failed to unite against this particular evil?

It is understandable that Americans continue to feel outraged by the attacks of September 11. The media guaranteed that all of us had a front row seat to the grim scenes of death and destruction. We could not escape the gruesome images of commercial airliners slamming into skyscrapers, people hurling themselves out of windows to avoid being burned alive, or a million tons of steel and concrete raining down upon victims and rescuers.

Think of the collective outrage that would ensue if we were granted the same kind access to the carnage inside an abortion clinic. Imagine if we were to catch a glimpse of the bloody, twisted heaps of mangled limbs, see babies survive an abortion long enough to be tossed out alive with the rest of the medical waste, or hear the screams of mothers realizing, too late, the devastating consequences of their actions.

Are all these innocent lives worth it? Should we applaud the deliberate killing of over 200,000 Japanese civilians by our atomic bombs because it ended World War II a few weeks ahead of schedule? Are we to just accept the murder of 1.5 million children every year because of our distorted view of individual liberty and personal choice? Do we continue to tolerate the actions of a government that believes it has more important things to do than protect the rights of the innocent?

Foreign civilians, unborn children, national integrity— evidently, these are the sacrifices with which we are willing to live. Such a thing is to be expected when a society adopts an "end justifies the means" philosophy. In doing so, we have only succeeded in demonstrating that we are just as capable as any terrorist nation of committing acts of senseless violence with little or no regard for the sanctity of human life.

So, just what exactly is it that separates the United States from the terrorist nations of the world? Maybe the answer is more elusive than we care to admit.


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To: AndyJackson
This is another example of this author's intellectual swindle - that you fell for. He asks the question and then quick -which shell is the pea under- the question is declared unanswerable and then - after another shuffle where you loose sight of the argument - voila - moral equivalency between the U.S. and terrorists.

Excellent response to a completely revolting and intellectually dishonest article.
The posts in this thread illustrate the futility of attempting to discuss the issue of "moral equivalency" with one who by virtue of a seared conscience clearly has no moral compass.....it's like trying to describe light to a blind man.
The only "equivalency" here is between the depraved mentality of those who make this argument and the Sept 11 murderers. They are equally dispicable.

201 posted on 11/05/2001 5:17:38 PM PST by Jorge
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To: Starmaker
"What Separates The U.S. From The Terrorist Nations Of The World?"

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202 posted on 11/05/2001 5:29:54 PM PST by hoot2
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To: Rowdee
....I mean, really, its not like there is no evidence that the US wouldn't doing somehting really drastic when it suits the US's purposes (here you can think: Dresden, or most any of the 61 cities of Germany in WW2 having population bases of 100,000 or more, or Nagasaki and Hiroshima).

Right. The only reason the civilized (and uncivilized) world is siding with the U.S. in it's war on terrorism and NOT ONE nation is siding with the Taliban....is because they think the U.S. will drop an A bomb on them.
Just like "Nagasaki and Hiroshima." Right.
Are you trying to make me laugh on purpose or what dude?

203 posted on 11/05/2001 5:40:09 PM PST by Jorge
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To: ex-snook
"Please: NO profanity, NO personal attacks, NO racism or violence in posts. This really applies to everyone. What part of this don't you understand?"

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204 posted on 11/05/2001 6:15:20 PM PST by hoot2
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To: Jorge
What is surprising is how many people here got themselves wrapped up in this poser. Other than this conclusion, this article has precisely zero content. Yet when I argued this folks thought that I am supporting socialists, Barbara Boxer and abortionsts. I am trying to understand it. What is so seductive about his empty rhetorical flourishes? I mean really what? Whether you are capitalist or communist this article is completely and utterly devoid of meaningful content.
205 posted on 11/05/2001 6:57:27 PM PST by AndyJackson
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To: Starmaker

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206 posted on 11/05/2001 6:58:46 PM PST by ChadGore
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To: Jorge
This is another example of this author's intellectual swindle - that you fell for. He asks the question and then quick -which shell is the pea under- the question is declared unanswerable and then - after another shuffle where you loose sight of the argument - voila - moral equivalency between the U.S. and terrorists.

Excellent response to a completely revolting and intellectually dishonest article. The posts in this thread illustrate the futility of attempting to discuss the issue of "moral equivalency" with one who by virtue of a seared conscience clearly has no moral compass.....it's like trying to describe light to a blind man. The only "equivalency" here is between the depraved mentality of those who make this argument and the Sept 11 murderers. They are equally dispicable.

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You fellas seem unable to understand the whole concept of FR, at least as I see it.

-- I come here to read news & opinion, much of which I don't agree with. - I then comment on that info, to try to add to the exchange of ideas.

A lot of these 'exchanges' become heated overblown 'flame wars' because one, or both sides use unfair, unethical, unreasonable, methods to argue their points. [mea culpa, far too often]

These last underlined comments you have made above are a case in point.

207 posted on 11/06/2001 7:37:29 AM PST by tpaine
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To: Jorge
Your point is a very good one....the lil ol 'you're for us or we'll take you out routine.....and, of course, we musn't forget that many are simply bought off with your money and my money....much like what passes for politicians here ini the States.
208 posted on 11/06/2001 5:11:12 PM PST by Rowdee
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