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Men going the way of the dodo, journal surmises
Ottawa Citizen - via National Post online ^ | Nov. 02, 2001 | Tom Spears

Posted on 11/02/2001 7:08:06 AM PST by jerod

Men's health has fallen so far behind women's that the new issue of the British Medical Journal asks: "Are men in danger of extinction?"

Men should be kings of the hill in health as they are in society, the journal says.

Yet somehow, life is not working out that way.

"Despite having had most of the social determinants of health in their favour, men have higher mortality rates for all 15 leading causes of death and a life expectancy about seven years shorter than women's," says the lead editorial in the journal's Nov. 3 issue, which is dedicated to men's health.

The journal expects the gap between the sexes to widen.

Much of the blame is pinned on men's behaviour.

They start and wage wars, drink too much and stupidly accept risks ranging from fast cars to sexually transmitted diseases.

The journal warns of growing dangers as well from increasing midlife crisis and domestic violence among men, "while men's increasing aggression also remains an unsolved health and societal problem."

Men have been killing themselves and each other for millennia, and haven't died out yet. But for all their history they've had one indispensable role: maintaining the species.

Kiss goodbye to that too, says the journal.

"With the advent of sperm banks, in-vitro fertilization, sex- sorting techniques, sperm-independent fertilization of eggs with somatic [non-sperm] cells, human cloning, and same-sex marriages, it is reasonable to wonder about the future role of men in society," the journal writes.

One British men's health expert calls for major reforms of the health system to serve men as well as it serves women.

The health system is a "no-man's land," Dr. Ian Banks, president of the European Men's Health Forum, says in the journal. Among its problems:

- Men don't know much about health to start with, and there is almost no health material written for teenaged boys and young men.

- Doctors can be anti-male from the start: "Training in medical school has been described as sado-masochistic, and much of it is imbued with the macho male culture."

- Men who go to a family physician "receive significantly less of a doctor's time" than women. Women get advice on examining their breasts for lumps but men are not told how to examine their testicles for signs of cancer.

- Men tend to wait longer after an illness begins before they go to the doctor, especially working-class men who feel it's not manly to ask for help. Men would rather suffer in silence than ask for help, even from their friends.

This lack of medical treatment is killing men, Dr. Banks concludes. "For instance, deaths from melanoma [skin cancer] are 50% higher in men than women despite a 50% lower incidence of the disease."

- Even the doctor's office is a threatening place for men, he says. The receptionist and nurse are mostly women, and the waiting room is filled with information on women's health issues alone.

The journal also publishes new evidence that men suffer as frequently as women from "body polymorphic disorder" -- a perception that their bodies are misshapen, carried to such a severe extent that it's a psychiatric problem.

Most often men are worried about baldness or the shape of their noses, but also about the size or shape of their genitals and the perception that their muscles are too puny even if they are actually large and muscular.

Katharine Phillips, a psychiatrist at Brown University, says in the study that this worry can take up hours of time every day for men who tried to hide the supposed defect.

Men can become housebound for fear people will see them. They can seek needless surgery or take dangerous steroids to bulk up. They sometimes commit suicide.

"Body image isn't just a woman's problem," she says. Forty-three per cent of American men are dissatisfied with the way they look, three times the number found 25 years ago.

She says men are as likely as women to be so upset by a perceived imperfection that they can't function normally in daily life. It is, she says, "a relatively common but severe psychiatric problem" that affect 12% of patients who consult dermatologists, and 7% to 15% who want cosmetic surgery.


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It's time to stand up for OUR Rights!

I can hear you - stop that laughing!

1 posted on 11/02/2001 7:08:06 AM PST by jerod
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To: jerod
Size doesn't matter....oops, wrong thread!
2 posted on 11/02/2001 7:21:20 AM PST by Seeking the truth
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To: jerod
Even the doctor's office is a threatening place for men, he says. The receptionist and nurse are mostly women

Um, guys like being around women. Well, most of them, that is.

3 posted on 11/02/2001 7:27:44 AM PST by freeeee
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To: jerod
A life lived without self-indulgence, stupidity and violence is a life not worth living.

Let the ladies enjoy their extra seven years.

4 posted on 11/02/2001 7:28:36 AM PST by skeeter
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To: jerod

Boys see crap like this in the newspaper and they believe it. It either angers them, or it makes them believe that society approves of ridiculing and blaming men even for their own deaths.

This is not the right message to be sending to a developing young mind. We are going to pay dearly in coming years for allowing feminist bigots to hijack our media to deliver messages like this to children.


5 posted on 11/02/2001 7:29:26 AM PST by Nick Danger
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To: jerod
Heh heh heh.... ;>)

Women may live longer, but usually in poorer health than a man of the same age.

6 posted on 11/02/2001 7:31:18 AM PST by petuniasevan
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To: jerod
"With the advent of sperm banks . . . it is reasonable to wonder about the future role of men in society,"

The future role of men in society? Providing snuggles, killing spiders, mowing the lawn, driving on snow and ice, moving furniture, bringing terrorists to justice, and paying the bills with a 60% higher paycheck.

Alert the media when sperm banks can do any of that.

7 posted on 11/02/2001 7:44:41 AM PST by JoeSchem
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To: jerod
They start and wage wars, drink too much and stupidly accept risks ranging from fast cars to sexually transmitted diseases.

Luckily, women don't get sexually transmited diseases. Is the author an idiot?

Men can become housebound for fear people will see them. They can seek needless surgery or take dangerous steroids to bulk up. They sometimes commit suicide.

Godd thing women don't commit suicide, eat strange diets, or become agoraphobic! Is the author just bashing men?

"Body image isn't just a woman's problem," she says. Forty-three per cent of American men are dissatisfied with the way they look, three times the number found 25 years ago.

Good thing women don't have any body image issues that might drive them to bulimia or anorexia! Wonder what their percentage of body dissatisfaction is compared to 25 years ago, when most models were natural sized, as compared to the bony skeletons that grace fashion shows today? What? The author didn't bother to tell us? I'm shocked! Shocked I say!

8 posted on 11/02/2001 7:52:33 AM PST by The Enlightener
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To: JoeSchem
Don't forget opening jars--I saw this sci fi spoof one time about a society of women who killed all their men off. They died out because they got a deadly disease, and the cure was sealed in a jar, and no one in their society could open it. I always think about it ever time my wife asks me to open a jar for her.
9 posted on 11/02/2001 7:56:24 AM PST by The Enlightener
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To: jerod
Beyond junk science, this is merely ranting cant. First they say Despite having had most of the social determinants of health in their favour... then they spend the rest of the article detailing the social determinants that appear categorically to deny that first thesis.

The rock-bottom fact is that there is, and always has been, a significant disparity in human longevity between the two sexes. The tendency of modern liberal arts to propound that the difference between the sexes - "genders," if you please - is merely a social construct is an utterly intellectually bankrupt position; its persistence is a political artifact that flies in the face of reality. I have an earth-shaking proposition here - men and women are physically different. This is a new idea, I know, and please don't ask for references on it, but if you see differences in social behavior, health, size, longevity...trust me, it's a sign that men and women are physically different. Oh, I know many on FR will scoff...

Gonna git me a grant to check it out. What the heck, somebody is getting paid to write up "A Sexual Tour of Thailand," and I want my piece of the pie...er, so to speak...

10 posted on 11/02/2001 8:02:57 AM PST by Billthedrill
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To: jerod
Much of the blame is pinned on men's behaviour. They start and wage wars, drink too much and stupidly accept risks ranging from fast cars

Men do seem to be most of the Darwin Award winners.

11 posted on 11/02/2001 8:11:12 AM PST by A Ruckus of Dogs
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To: JoeSchem
I just moved, after describing how I cleaned my apt for the inspection. My little niece decided that cleaning toilets was a Man's Job. Specifically her future Husbands job.
12 posted on 11/02/2001 8:18:38 AM PST by Sci Fi Guy
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To: Nick Danger
We are going to pay dearly in coming years for allowing feminist bigots to hijack our media to deliver messages like this to children.

You would do better dedicating your time and energy to studying the effects of, and attempting to get the chemical and industrial farming corporations to cease and desist use of all endocrine disrupting compounds. These affect all sorts of hormones and glands in the human body.

There was a release of dioxins in Italy a few years ago, and it dramatically affected the birth sex ratio in the affected village, i.e., males embryos did not survive.

In addition, there are serious, penile consequences to endocrine disrupters, specifically, smaller penises, problems with the penile opening, less testerone, and testes remaining in the abdomen and not descending into the scrotum.

It appears that the male race to riches is having consequences that will eventually turn them into women.

Lots of stuff on the web ... start out with Tulane's webpage on them -- Click here.

14 posted on 11/02/2001 8:37:40 AM PST by That Poppins Woman
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To: jerod
Considering the crappy treatment I received today at the doctor's office, I can peg at least one reason why men hate going to doctors. My time is valuable (at least to me), and an hour after my scheduled appointment was to begin (the first of the day for this particular doctor), I was still sitting in the waiting room. Any doctor who wants my business can show me at least a modicum of respect, thank you very much.
15 posted on 11/02/2001 8:55:31 AM PST by Junior
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To: That Poppins Woman
It appears that the male race to riches is having consequences that will eventually turn them into women.

Like I said, we are going to pay dearly in coming years for allowing feminist bigots to hijack our media to deliver messages like this to children. Even if the medium is Free Republic.


16 posted on 11/02/2001 7:04:27 PM PST by Nick Danger
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To: jerod
bttt
17 posted on 11/02/2001 7:15:36 PM PST by Don Myers
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To: jerod
"They start and wage wars, drink too much and stupidly accept risks ranging from fast cars to sexually transmitted diseases. "

If anyone here doesn't recognize this as the language of bigotry and hate... then imagine that "They" refers to blacks, Irish Catholics, Peurto Ricans, Southerners, Serbians, or even a specific male group like soldiers or Marines. Men are just evil... the source of all the world's grief. Violent, drunken, sexual predators who are interested only in a good time... the lot of them - even the heroes of the FDNY and NYPD. This is the constant drumbeat of the media. Your kids are also getting this in public and even some parochial schools - day in, day out.

Ya wanna win War2K? Intervene and erase this crap from your kids lives - challenge it wherever you encounter it before the USA becomes just a larger version of France, complete with resident conqueror.

Don't say you weren't warned.

18 posted on 11/03/2001 7:52:08 AM PST by Harrison Bergeron
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