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my source ^ | 11/01/01 | kingh99

Posted on 11/01/2001 2:34:28 PM PST by kingh99

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To: slimer
Right. I wonder how many of those booing were former supporters. The cheers for Sir Rudi and GWB are coming from people who elected Hill. My guess is this may signify a major, major change in NYC and in the country.
101 posted on 11/02/2001 8:56:11 AM PST by cajungirl
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To: freeeee
We do not decide what constitutes a "legitimate" target in the United States. The enemy does that, currently with some limited impunity!

The point is simple. War is hell.

Take your worst assumptions about war and multiply them 100 times. You have still not approximated the horrors of modern mano-e-mano combat.

That said, the cruel hoax is that everything you do to "humanize" war or make it less horrible only serves to prolong the conflict. That prolonged conflict only results in more deaths on all sides.

In 3 wars, we have tried to pare down the conflict so the other side will "understand" our position.

We have found that the only enemy soldier who learns the wisdom and and longevity of our position is a dead ememy soldier!!!

Tough, but true. It's called reality!

102 posted on 11/02/2001 9:20:24 AM PST by MindBender26
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To: MindBender26
I understand the points you made, and it is true, that is reality.

I'm just wondering if we begin consider foreign citizens legitimate targets, will we have any moral authority to complain if the same is done to us?

If purposely targeting citizen non-combatants is the definition of terrorism, and we do just that, are we not terrorists?

And please, FReepers, no flames. This is a legitimate question. I'm no sympathizer of theirs, and I think they deserve what they get. I am merely questioning the intentional targeting of non-combatants. Once they take up arms, they are no longer non-combatants, and are fair game.

103 posted on 11/02/2001 9:30:08 AM PST by freeeee
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To: freeeee
Your point well taken.

There is a huge difference between the Afghani who is killed when a bonb hits his home next to the anti-aircraft missile site, and 500 people working at the World Trade Center. For us to refuse to attack that AAA site because it is in a residential area is strategic suicide. It would prolong the war for all, and therefore kill more on both sides.

The people who worked in the WTC were different. They had no involvement in the war, nor was the hit in the WTC a miss from an attack on some other legitimate military target.

It is time for OBL and his lieutenants to die for their radical psychotic offshoot of Islam. We can help them accomolish that goal. As our Preisdent said, that is the just fate for OBL supporters too.

104 posted on 11/02/2001 10:23:17 AM PST by MindBender26
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To: kingh99
fwiw, I am convinced that Bin Ladin will continue to attack nyc--again and again and again.

He has hordes of supporters in northern new jersey, the densest population area in the country in manhattan, the most tall buildings in manhattan, the most bridges and tunnels of any metropolitan area, the home of most major media, the center of the world economy, the home of the UN, etc. etc.

The only offsetting factors that I can see are the fact that most Americans don't think nyc is really a part of the country and that security in nyc is very tight right now.

But my gut tells me he will continue to go after his primary target--nyc. What is also clear is that after an incredibly devastating attack no serious move has been made to remove his sympathizers from the metro nyc area. He can only conclude that new yorkers are incredibly stupid and easy victims.
105 posted on 11/02/2001 10:39:30 AM PST by cgbg
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To: cajungirl
My guess is this may signify a major, major change in NYC and in the country.

Let's hope so... if it is,

it's about time!!!

106 posted on 11/02/2001 11:50:50 AM PST by slimer
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To: FITZ
It wouldn't surprise me if Jeb had secret secret service due to his proximity to the president. There are situations I will not mention here that would make it a good idea for him to have federal protection plus the usual security detail.

Our Governor Lawton Chiles died shortly after Jeb beat the democratic opponent Buddy McKay. McKay served as governor for about a month because he was the Lt. Gov. when Chiles died and therefore, McKay swore Jeb in.

Walkin' Lawton didn't like security detail when he worked out; he was all alone when he died, in the gym from a heart attack and they found him by an exercycle. We had three governors in a short time span. I thought you might want to know this factual tale.

107 posted on 11/02/2001 2:20:28 PM PST by floriduh voter
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To: daitex
Miami has a significant target, based right at the water's edge of downtown.

The Port of Miami is known as the "Cruise Capital of the World." It is home to 17 cruise ships, and has the largest year-round cruise fleet in the world. The Port also handles more "megaships" - vessels capable of transporting more than 3,000 guests - than any other port in the world. Carnival Cruise Lines, Norwegian Cruise Line, and Royal Caribbean International all operate exceptional cruise vessels from the Port of Miami. In fiscal year 2000, more than 3.3 million passengers used the Port.

Airline flights from all over the world converge to fill the cruise ships. A hit on the cruise lines, is a hit on the airlines, a hit on tourism, and related industries (food, liquor, etc.) not only for the US but for all the countries they visit!

In fiscal year 2000, the Port of Miami’s estimated impact on the community was $8 billion and 45,000 jobs. Miami is in the top ten container ports in the U.S. The Port of Miami has more than 40 shipping lines calling on 132 countries and 362 ports around the world. Of these, 26 carriers serve 33 countries and 101 ports in Latin America and the Caribbean (LAC).

We also have an abundance of asian and german ships that are not reflected in the online statistics but that I have observed in my daily drive by on the way to work. Some of the wealthiest people in the world have homes on the islands adjacent to the port. And, lastly, Miami's financial district, 10 minutes from the port, is a substantial hub for Latin America/US banking.

108 posted on 11/02/2001 3:07:19 PM PST by debg
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To: OWK
I'm new here at Free Republic. Could someone please explain tin foil hats?
109 posted on 11/02/2001 3:33:09 PM PST by Eyes Now Opened
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To: Eyes Now Opened
Tin foil hats are references to assorted crazy folk who in days gone by, used to cover their heads with tinfoil to prevent the influence of government (or extra-terretrial) mind control waves.

To suggest that a post is a tinfoil hat post, implies that it is a paranoid delusional conspiracy theory or a technically ridiculous bit of drivel unworthy of serious consideration.

110 posted on 11/02/2001 3:44:02 PM PST by OWK
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To: OWK
I agree with your definition.

Ipso facto,"Tinfoil hat"="OWK"

111 posted on 11/02/2001 3:47:06 PM PST by Lurking2Long
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To: Lurking2Long
Sigh, once again, OWK won't come out to play...
112 posted on 11/02/2001 3:57:00 PM PST by Lurking2Long
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To: DJ88
Ping!
113 posted on 11/02/2001 4:21:29 PM PST by ConservativeLawyer
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To: OWK
ouch
114 posted on 11/02/2001 5:00:57 PM PST by kingh99
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To: Liberals are Evil Socialists!
Uh...NO!

Hopefully our intel let's us stop "next time", BEFORE it happens!

Then, after we've nuked the source, the gov't lays out the evidence to support the completed strike.

115 posted on 11/02/2001 5:17:31 PM PST by GlesenerL
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To: kingh99
NOOOOOO! I have to fly to Orlando in a couple of weeks!!
116 posted on 11/02/2001 5:25:54 PM PST by alley cat
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