Did I claim otherwise? I think not.
I'd love to see just how cool and rational you'd be if an jumbo jet full of fuel crashed into the building where you work -- a few floors below you -- and the flames and smoke were so intense, as the fire was burning between 1000-2000 degrees and coming up fast on you.
Funny, I wouldn't want to see anyone in a situation like that. And rational doesn't mean you are emotionaly uneffected, it just means you make your choices based on reason, not panic. Panic is not a required response, some people have faced horrific like threatening situations without panicing before and will again, and I hope if ever in such a situation I will not panic and become irrational.
It's obvious that you've never been in a life-threatening situation
You mean like the time someone tried to run me over on purpose, or the time some drugged out guy attacked me armed with a large screwdriver (the kind witht the flat blade), or the time a car went out of control and crashed into the gas pumps at the station I worked at when I was in high school? Don't pretend you know anything about me.
Nobody knows how they're going to react in a situation like this, but we just hope and pray that if it happens, we can make the right decisions and survive it.
I never denied the possibility, I just said that I can't see myself making the same decision they did. If you can see yourself doing it, you are mentaly partway out the window already.
And why would God favor you over the 5000+ whom he did not save that morning? How arrogant.
Actually, I think it quite arrogant of you to think you know better than God, or that you can tell ahead of time what his plan and purposes are.
God does not help those who do not help themselves. Having the faith to try is being hopefull, not arrogant. Assuming that God will step just because it's you IS arrogance, but I'm not saying that God will intervene, I'm saying that if you act you *might* survive, and as long as I am capable of trying, I will. Should just give up and die so I don't embarras others who don't try?
Even more arrogant than assuming that you'd be so calm and rational during that kind of crisis.
I said I can't see myself choosing to do what they did. That's not the same thing as assuming I would be calm.
If you mentaly prepare to fail at something. You will fail.
It's painfully obvious that you've *never* been in any situation even remotely resembling what happened here on 9/11.
It's painfully obvious to me that you don't understand that faith isn't a passive belife.
so please stop trying to lord your self-perceived superiority over the rest of us mere mortals.
Just where did I ever say I was better than anyone else? I only said I can't see myself reacting the same way they did.
Unless you're a trained rescue professional, I'd love to see just how rational you'd be in that kind of a situation.
Oh, so only trained professionals have ever been rational in the face of disaster. Riiiiiiiiiight.
If you mentaly prepare to fail at something. You will fail.
Oh please. I never knew how I'd react in the middle of such a disaster, but I relied on both instinct and prayer that morning. If I had actually been *in* the towers and on a high floor, I honestly don't know how I would have reacted, but I hope I would have done the right things. Big difference between saying that and saying that I would have definitely been so brave and wonderful and all that b.s.
It's painfully obvious to me that you don't understand that faith isn't a passive belife.
Huh? Yes, I relied on faith that morning, but if that was all I went on, I could have been murdered or trapped when the towers came tumbling down. I think that God expects us to be active participants, not just lie there supine and wait for Him to rescue us.
Just where did I ever say I was better than anyone else? I only said I can't see myself reacting the same way they did.
You've been saying so repeatedly throughout this thread, and offending many people. Yes, we got your message - that you're better and morally superior to those poor souls who copped out and committed blasphemy by leaping from 100+ stories.
Really? Can you cite a scripture passage backing up your assertion?
Christianity is based on the notion of man fallen from grace, out of favor with God, unable to help himself, unable to save himself...and God's free gift to man is in the person of Jesus Christ, who died for the sins of the world.
The Psalms are full of entreaties by a helpless David to God for deliverance from his enemies. God helped him when he was unable to help himself.
My reading of scripture tells me that God is the helper of the helpless. I ask you, would there be any point in helping someone who doesn't need help? If you're already helping yourself, why do you need God?
I'm in agreement with most of the posters on this thread: There's no way for you to know how you'd react under the circumstances at the World Trade Center on 9/11. (Those people didn't "give up." They reacted primally to intense heat, the likes of which you cannot imagine.)