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"Show me where in either the Constitution or the Declaration of Independence where the foudners are addressing other than those who will make up the country, the citizen owners."

Here is a constitutional lawyers perspective on non-citizens rights
"As far as the Constitution is concerned, aliens, which is to say non-citizens, are here at this country's pleasure.
They have no constitutional right to be here."
Author: Ann Coulter Future Widows of America: Write your Congressman

[NixNatAVanG InDaBurgh]

REPOST!

These guys are soldiers out of uniform, have already committed an act of war on US soil, and are clearly hostile to US interests and humanity itself.

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National Self Defense: The act of defending the U.S.; U.S. forces; and in certain circumstances, U.S. citizens and their property, U.S. commercial assets, other designated non-U.S. forces, foreign nationals and their property, from a hostile act or hostile intent. As a subset of national self-defense, the act of defending other designated non-U.S. citizens, forces, property, and interests is referred to as collective self-defense. Authority to exercise national self-defense rests with the NCA, but may be delegated under specified circumstances; however, only the NCA may authorize the exercise of collective self-defense.

The SROE distinguish between the right and obligation of self-defense—which is not limited—and use of force for the accomplishment of an assigned mission. Authority to use force in mission accomplishment may be limited in light of political, military or legal concerns, but such limitations have no impact on the commander's right and obligation of self-defense.

Once a threat has been declared a hostile force, United States units and individual soldiers may engage without observing a hostile act or demonstration of hostile intent. The basis for engagement becomes status rather than conduct. The authority to declare a force hostile is given only to particular individuals in special circumstances.

Appendix A to Enclosure A of the SROE contains guidance on this authority.

104 posted on 11/15/01 12:23 AM Pacific by NixNatAVanG InDaBurgh

The End?

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"They have no constitutional right to be here.."

For illegal aliens, true but irrelevant. If they are here illegally, deport them. If they committed crimes while here, prosecute them. But any trial for cimes alleged to have been committed while here must afford them full Constitutional protections as set forth in the Bill of Rights.

We try non-citizens and even illegal aliens all the time for crimes committed in this country. The trials must observe all Constitutional safguards. This is a common, everyday occurrence.

Please state the legal basis for your opinion that the plain meaning of the words of the Constitution and common practice are wrong and you are right in making the startling statement that the Constitution does not apply to non-citizens.