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Radioactive Material Reported Stolen in Philadelphia Region
U.S. Nuclear Regulatory Commission ^ | October 29, 2001 | NRC

Posted on 10/31/2001 8:25:39 AM PST by hispanarepublicana

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To: francisandbeans
I just thanked you for a clafication.

I just replied to your question at post # 5, and didn't see your later posting. No offense intended.

21 posted on 10/31/2001 8:45:26 AM PST by quimby
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To: classygreeneyedblonde
This shows you how "good" our facilities are being protected

What "facilities" are you talking about?

22 posted on 10/31/2001 8:46:53 AM PST by MassLengthTime
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To: hispanarepublicana
This amount of radiation is trivial. If you want to worry, check out this thread.

-ccm

23 posted on 10/31/2001 8:55:02 AM PST by ccmay
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To: Poohbah
hmmmmmmmmmmmmm
24 posted on 10/31/2001 8:58:25 AM PST by classygreeneyedblonde
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To: classygreeneyedblonde
Nah, more like they saw a nifty case that was chained and locked in the back of a truck and figured it must be valuable if it was chained and locked.
25 posted on 10/31/2001 9:03:32 AM PST by Tennessee_Bob
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To: hispanarepublicana
How often did these go missing in the year or two before 9/11?
26 posted on 10/31/2001 9:04:55 AM PST by N00dleN0gg1n
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To: N00dleN0gg1n
How often did these go missing in the year or two before 9/11?

I suspect quite often. I saw the plumbing from a housing project at the local copper and brass collector before the housing project even opened, one time.

And in a flood in East St. Louis, it was discovered that the huge steel flood gates were missing- too late, the river already flooded parts of the city. Now, I had driven by those missing gates for years, and the rumors all along had been that the mayor or one of the city officials had used city workers and equipment to haul those puppies down to the scrapyard and cash in. It was quite a surprise to me to hear that the 'official press release' was that the flooding was caused because the gates were 'malfunctioning and stuck open.'

27 posted on 10/31/2001 9:21:42 AM PST by piasa
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To: hispanarepublicana
I wish all of this hysteria would stop!!!

Probably not enough radioactive material to make a glow-in-the-dark watch.

28 posted on 10/31/2001 9:25:24 AM PST by AmericaUnited
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To: classygreeneyedblonde
This shows you how "good" our facilities are being protected this is pure neglience on the part of the chief of operations ...after 911 you would think this would have top prority......

These aren't "facilities". These are individual devices. The person or agency who holds the license is responsible for their security.

Am-241 is an alpha emitter. A few inches of air will stop the particles. It poses an internal dose potential if it is injested. Particulate inhalation is a concern since the lining of the lungs are radiosensitive. Otherwise, well, as others have noted, from an external dose perspective, an in-home smoke alarm poses about as much hazard.

Cesium-137 is a gamma emitter and thus more penetrating. Running the calculation for gamma exposure rate in air, an 8 millicurie source would produce a gamma exposure rate of about 32 mR/hr at one foot in air from the unshielded source. Applying the appropriate quality factor for tissue-equivalent dose, you get the amount of radiation per hour at one foor from this source as you would from a chest x-ray (30 mrem). Certainly not harmful, but in keeping with the ALARA concept, you likely would not want to sleep with this source under your pillow for the next 40 years.

29 posted on 10/31/2001 9:25:43 AM PST by chimera
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To: hispanarepublicana
LATEST NEWS ON RECENT WARNING
30 posted on 10/31/2001 9:28:29 AM PST by Fred25
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To: Poohbah
Ping. Let us know how much (or how little) danger this stuff is.

OK. Let's start with the 40 mCi of Americium-241. The dose conversion factor, if you inhale it, is 1.2x10-4Sievert/Bequerel, which is 44.4 rem/mCi. The total dose equivalent, if you inhaled the lot of 40 mCi, is 1776 rem, which is enough to kill you pretty quickly. Anything beyond 600 rem is considered to be guaranteed fatal after 60 days. We are not, however, talking about a huge public health threat. You could poison a few people with it if you didn't dilute it too much and could deliver most of it into their lungs. (Sorry, I couldn't find the ingested dose conversion factors.)

The inhaled dose conversion factor for Cesium-137 is 8.6x10-9 Sv/Bq, which is 3.182x10-3 rem/mCi. The total dose equivalent for 8 mCi is 25 mrem, or about what you typically get in a year's time from cosmic rays.

31 posted on 10/31/2001 9:44:47 AM PST by Physicist
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To: Physicist
Uh...OK.
32 posted on 10/31/2001 9:49:12 AM PST by Poohbah
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To: Physicist
OK. Let's start with the 40 mCi of Americium-241. The dose conversion factor, if you inhale it, is 1.2x10-4Sievert/Bequerel, which is 44.4 rem/mCi. The total dose equivalent, if you inhaled the lot of 40 mCi, is 1776 rem, which is enough to kill you pretty quickly. Anything beyond 600 rem is considered to be guaranteed fatal after 60 days. We are not, however, talking about a huge public health threat. You could poison a few people with it if you didn't dilute it too much and could deliver most of it into their lungs. (Sorry, I couldn't find the ingested dose conversion factors.) The inhaled dose conversion factor for Cesium-137 is 8.6x10-9 Sv/Bq, which is 3.182x10-3 rem/mCi. The total dose equivalent for 8 mCi is 25 mrem, or about what you typically get in a year's time from cosmic rays.

Translation for the physics-impaired: The amount stolen could be dangerous to a small handful of people if you applied it just right, but basically one bottle of Drain-O would be more of a public health hazard.

And it's not enough to make a radiological bomb out of. Even if someone stole several hundred of these and then scattered their contents evenly over a city, the effects would likely be totally unnoticeable.

33 posted on 10/31/2001 9:55:09 AM PST by Dan Day
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To: Dan Day
Great summary....a few smoke detectors....more kids drown in 5 gal buckets....nothing to see here....
34 posted on 10/31/2001 12:49:22 PM PST by MichaelDammit
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