[George W. Bush]

I didn't propose to debate this matter again. I think we are both quite aware of each other's position. I'd rather read more about Luther nad not hijack this thread.

Nevertheless, your caricature of Calvinism is wildly exaggerated when applied to the vast majority of Calvinists.

[Romestamo]

I agree, Dubya. This thread is sitting on a tarmac in Lebanon, waiting for the negotiators to arrive. If you wish to continue, winston, flag me down in the Chronicles.