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Militants of Al-Muhajiroun seek world Islamic state
The Telegraph (U.K.) ^ | 10/31/2001 | Peter Foster

Posted on 10/30/2001 5:02:22 PM PST by Pokey78

THE military response to the attacks of September 11 has provided a fertile environment for the inflammatory rhetoric of Islamic pressure groups such as Al-Muhajiroun.

The group, founded in Jeddah in 1983 by a Syrian cleric, Sheikh Omar Bakri Mohammed, is dedicated to the re-establishment of the khilafa or world Islamic state which it says was destroyed by imperialist Europe.

Bakri Mohammed, who was expelled from Saudi Arabia and has lived in London since 1986, has thrived on the publicity generated by provocative statements calling for young Muslims to take up arms against the opponents of Islam in Chechnya, Kashmir and Israel.

He spoke in approval of the American embassy bombings in Africa and, in 1990, was interviewed by Special Branch after allegedly calling for the assassination of John Major. He denied this and was never charged.

Mainstream Muslim opinion in Britain has repeatedly dismissed the group as the "lunatic fringe".

Dr Ghuyasuddin Siddiqui, leader of the Muslim Parliament, did so again yesterday, accusing Al-Muhajiroun's leaders of trying to make "political mileage" from the conflict in Afghanistan.

Al-Mujahiroun's British leader, Anjem Choudary, claimed yesterday that the organisation had a worldwide following, with 30 offices across Britain and others in Pakistan, Kuwait, France, South Africa, Lebanon, Bangladesh, Mauritius, Saudi Arabia, Syria and Algeria.

It was "impossible" to determine the organisation's membership, he said, but claimed that Al-Muhajiroun represented a much more mainstream Muslim agenda than groups such as the Muslim Parliament would admit.

"It is they who are sold out and secular. We are the ones who have not compromised our Islamic faith."

The Home Office and security services have long taken a softly, softly attitude towards Al-Muhajiroun - dismissing the group in private as a relatively harmless organisation with more bark than bite.

That did not appear to change even when Al-Muhajiroun leaflets exhorting British Muslims to "kill the Jews" were pasted around London and Birmingham a year ago, with a telephone number for Bakri Mohammed.

Senior members of the Jewish Board of Deputies say appropriate action has not been taken. They wrote to the Attorney General recently to ask why no prosecution had been brought against those behind the leaflets.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: globaljihad

1 posted on 10/30/2001 5:02:22 PM PST by Pokey78
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To: Pokey78
They can have their state in hell!
2 posted on 10/30/2001 5:06:32 PM PST by sheik yerbouty
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To: Pokey78
I haven't heard anybody compare the fundamentalists with the commies.

Same bad idea. Won't work.

This time there will be no cold war. It will be hot.......very very hot.......

3 posted on 10/30/2001 5:13:45 PM PST by CROSSHIGHWAYMAN
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To: Pokey78

4 posted on 10/30/2001 5:21:37 PM PST by Shermy
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To: Pokey78
Let's face the truth. We are facing the war that ends all wars. If civilization will defend itself with the most ferocious military attack in history then the barbarians will be destroyed forever. We will eventually go to war against most of the 22 Islamic step sisters. We didn't ask for this war; they delivered it to our door. We must destroy the evil for eternity. May we have the resolve.
5 posted on 10/30/2001 5:39:30 PM PST by rebdov
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To: sheik yerbouty
It never existed. The Muslims themselves led to the breakup of whatever unity that existed in the Muslim world. Since the very beginning internal conflict had plagued Islam.
6 posted on 10/30/2001 5:39:56 PM PST by Bombard
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To: Pokey78
"It is they who are sold out and secular. We are the ones who have not compromised our Islamic faith."

Ah, this Mullah was kicked out of the current Khalifa. If there were a world Islamic State, he wouldn't have a haven in Western Civilization to run to for safety. He'd be dead. He owes his life to Christianity and Western Civilization and he says these other guys "sold out".

7 posted on 10/30/2001 5:41:09 PM PST by Kermit
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They say they want the whole world? They've ALWAYS wanted the whole world, just like the communists did! When in the name of all that's truly holy are we going to listen to what they're saying and take it seriously, instead of trying to candy-@$$ these vermin with talk about Islam as a "religion of peace," etc.???
8 posted on 10/30/2001 5:43:41 PM PST by Map Kernow
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When in the name of all that's truly holy are we going to listen to what they're saying and take it seriously, instead of trying to candy-@$$ these vermin with talk about Islam as a "religion of peace," etc.???

When a nuke or a dirty bomb takes out an American city. I thought the WTC was enough to trip the trigger. How many Americans have to die before people understand this is a real war, where winner takes all?

9 posted on 10/30/2001 5:51:48 PM PST by cayuga
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To: Bombard
It never existed. The Muslims themselves led to the breakup of whatever unity that existed in the Muslim world. Since the very beginning internal conflict had plagued Islam.

Good point. Strictly speaking, the Khilafa or Caliphate lasted a few decades after Muhammad's death before it was superseded by the Umayyad Dynasty based in Damascus, which was displaced after about a century by the Abbasids based in Baghdad. That last dynasty was destroyed in the thirteenth century by the Mongols, and there has never been a unified "world Islamic state" since---not even the Ottoman Empire had all of the Islamic ulema under its sovereignty, but had Islamic rivals in Morocco, Iran, Central Asia, and Mughal India.

If these jerks want to blame anybody for the breakup of the Khilafa, they should blame Genghis Khan and the Mongol Hordes.

10 posted on 10/30/2001 5:54:29 PM PST by Map Kernow
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To: Map Kernow
Hell the Mongols only finished what had been started by the various Islamic factions. The Islamic world regressed after the 12th century and failed to advance technologicly and thus could not compete with a more advanced and dynamic Europe. They blame Western Culture for holding them back. If not for the natural resouces in the Arab world the region would still be a sleeply backwater.
11 posted on 10/30/2001 6:50:36 PM PST by Bombard
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To: Bombard; Map Kernow
Welllll...I'm not so sure i buy into explanations that assume a religion is a sort of computer program that locks people or cultures into a certain way of behaving. Max Weber supposed there was a Protestant Ethic which explained western european success- Jesse Jackson is a protestant, but we would not look to him as a model of rectitude, thrift, humility, and honest dealing.

Seems to me things like the inquisition, the thirty years war, "God will know his own" etc. are examples of dissent & a lack of unity within our faith.

there were times when the main current of islam pursued & valued knowledge & progress. While that is not the case now, I don't think "Islam" itself necessarily requires barbarism .

12 posted on 10/30/2001 7:08:46 PM PST by fourdeuce82d
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