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To: factmart
James Madison (1751-1836), our fourth President, was known as the "Chief Architect of the Constitution," and the original author and promoter of the Bill of Rights. In the Constitutional Convention he spoke 161 times. Madison said: "It is the duty of every man to render to the Creator . . . homage. . . ." and defined "religion" thus: "Religion ... the duty we owe our Creator." p. 410.

Interesting how Madison is quoted above as a religious person, and here he is quoted:

James Madison, American president and political theorist (1751-1836). "During almost fifteen centuries has the legal establishment of Christianity been on trial. What has been its fruits? More or less, in all places, pride and indolence in the clergy; ignorance and servility in the laity; in both, superstition, bigotry, and persecution." "In no instance have . . . the churches been guardians of the liberties of the people." “Religious bondage shackles and debilitates the mind and unfits it for every noble enterprise.” [April 1, 1774]

More famous peoples thoughts here:

http://www.visi.com/~markg/atheists.html
79 posted on 10/30/2001 9:41:04 AM PST by rolling_stone
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To: rolling_stone
James Madison (1751-1836), our fourth President, was known as the "Chief Architect of the Constitution," and the original author and promoter of the Bill of Rights. In the Constitutional Convention he spoke 161 times. Madison said: "It is the duty of every man to render to the Creator . . . homage. . . ." and defined "religion" thus: "Religion ... the duty we owe our Creator." p. 410.

Interesting how Madison is quoted above as a religious person, and here he is quoted:

James Madison, American president and political theorist (1751-1836). "During almost fifteen centuries has the legal establishment of Christianity been on trial. What has been its fruits? More or less, in all places, pride and indolence in the clergy; ignorance and servility in the laity; in both, superstition, bigotry, and persecution." "In no instance have . . . the churches been guardians of the liberties of the people." “Religious bondage shackles and debilitates the mind and unfits it for every noble enterprise.” [April 1, 1774]

I'm not going to check out an Atheist website to find out what Thomas Jefferson is quoted to say. I don't really believe your quote above, but I do know one thing. If you go to Washington, D.C. and check out the Thomas Jefferson Memorial you will find a quote in there that basically says ... a country that doesn't worship Jesus Christ won't last ... check it out for yourself.

It's interesting that even Darwin became a Christian at the end of his life. In fact, I don't know any death bed atheists.

84 posted on 10/30/2001 8:28:32 PM PST by factmart
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