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To: from occupied ga
The pilgrims were communists and almost starved because of it.

That's an absurd oversimplification, especially since communism didn't exist at that point.

Although the poster went a little overboard on his essay, his premise that the pilgrims did not represent the American way (at least as it is historically represented rather than what flows from Washington today) is fundamentally correct

No, he referred to the Puritans...one or more generations removed from the Pilgrims, AFTER the crops began to flourish and the corruption of the English church became apparent. The essay is devoid of supporting fact and represents nothing more than mimicking what he/she has been taught in school about the "insensitive, judgemental Puritans."

104 posted on 11/01/2001 11:05:35 AM PST by Chief Inspector Clouseau
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To: Chief Inspector Clouseau
That's an absurd oversimplification, especially since communism didn't exist at that point.

It is not an oversimplification. It's a reasonably accurate description of how the colony was run for the first year or so anyway. Of course communism existed at that time. It just wasn't called communism. Most monasteries practiced a form of religion base communism during the middle ages, although they used a positive sum game model rather than the zero sum game model that Bradford & company used. Have you read Bradford's book? I had to struggle through it 35 years ago, and it seemed to describe communism pretty well to me.

No, he referred to the Puritans

I stand corrected. I read "puritans" and thought "pilgrims"

105 posted on 11/01/2001 11:49:51 AM PST by from occupied ga
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