The Towers Have Fallen - But We Missed the Message

timessquarechurch.org ^ | 9/16/01

[lavaroise]

Six weeks prior to the disaster, the Holy Spirit forewarned our pastoral staff that a calamity was coming.

I would be careful if I were them, our police state might interprete this as that they were told of the disaster by terrorists but never mentioned it.

[DreamWeaver]

God charged this coalition of Israel's enemies to chasten his chosen people. The Lord was trying to warn Israel, ?You've lifted yourself up with pride. Now I'm about to bring you down. I'm going to allow you to be disciplined by your enemies.

People do not want to hear "truth", yet if they know God, they will know this is truth and this is how God works. Chastisement by God was done many, many times, and I too strongly believe " from scripture " that we are being chastised just as Israel has been. Chastiment comes from love. Any parents out there ? Then you know that you chastise your children out of love, to put them back on the right track.

[ASA Vet]

Sometimes supernaturalists are funny. This time they're not.

[tonycavanagh]

One thing I have learnt is you don’t need God or Satan, all you need is a big chip on your shoulder and self believe that you alone have all the answers, throw in a load of followers with chips just as big and bingo you have a terrorist unit or a dictatorship.

I have met enough budding Hitler’s an Osama Bin Ladens, in the east end, in North Ireland and Bosnia

Religion or politics it is just a vehicle for there own self delusional ideas.

Tony

[Ratatoskr]

But God could have protected our innocent children that day and He did not. Why?

So every tragedy, every death, every bad thing that befalls us is a message from God? What an ugly, brutish God you believe in.

[Paul Ross]

Nothing eloquent in either of your intolerant and ignorant brayings against those seeking the Holy Spirit. Typical of your arrogant atheistic leanings, you wish to SILENCE any such.

[OWK]

And asking the question does not imply that the writer thinks that God "... smash[es] ... innocent children against the side of a skyscraper." He self-evidently does not. But God could have protected our innocent children that day and He did not.

Sorry, but it appears to me as if you struggle to create a distinction without a difference.

The killing of innocents is evil. If God was standing next to the World Trade Center, with a gigantic cosmic catcher's mitt, and yet did not lift an indifferent finger to spare the victims.... Or worse yet, he actually WANTED it to happen in order to "Teach America a Lesson", then he would be one evil creature indeed.

For the life of me, I cannot understand the tendency among those of faith, to attribute the evil acts of men, to their God.

[Paul Ross]

Bump.

[Wolfie]

No problem, the FBI is planning a new version of Carnivore (called Omnivore) to monitor all transmissions between the Lord and his flock.

[Ratatoskr]

Typical of your arrogant atheistic leanings, you wish to SILENCE any such.

You assume I'm an atheist because I disagree with you?

[Lazamataz]

Six weeks prior to the disaster, the Holy Spirit forewarned our pastoral staff that a calamity was coming.

B.S.

I, too, predict stuff a few weeks after it happens.

[tonycavanagh]

re : But God could have protected our innocent children that day and He did not. Why?

Does this protection only apply to America and maybe Israel that is if we ignore the Holocaust.

Was it gods will I was blown up in North Ireland, or did he stop protecting me, or was it because I moved to close to the booby trap.

This is the same blame the victim, and why us stuff that other people have put forward mainly by those who know nothing of the real world and what is really happening outside there shores.

Tony

[LibertyGirl77]

I found this very interesting. There is a lot of truth to it (though some of it is, of course, debatable). Reading Isaiah, Daniel, and Revelations, I have seen many a Biblical prophecy that matched eerily with the events of the present day. FReepmail me if you want to talk about it without being flamed.

[alpowolf]

OK, fine. What do you want done? I'd prefer a straight answer as opposed to clouds of scriptural references. Do you want our govt to pass any new laws?

What about those of us who aren't Christians? What do you want from us?

[OWK]

Many a FReeper has said about TV and radio, that if you don't like the program, turn it off or change the channel. Same rule applies here.

You seem to be confusing FR, with broadcast media.

This is an interactive forum.

[dead]

If God was standing next to the World Trade Center, with a gigantic cosmic catcher's mitt, and yet did not lift an indifferent finger to spare the victims

Maybe he pulled a Buckner.

[Poohbah]

Correct; it wasn't the Holy Spirit, it was that last batch of chii from the church picnic. (Go EASY on the chipotle chilis, folks.)

[KJMorgan]

Jesus Christ, you got an Evil god!!!

Glad I'm not a Christian.

[dead]

Many a FReeper has said about TV and radio, that if you don't like the program, turn it off or change the channel.

No actually, we say “call it stupid, insult the people responsible, and then turn it off.”