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Terrorists carrying a radioactive bomb arrested.
http://www.news-israel.net ^

Posted on 10/29/2001 1:14:44 AM PST by ipaq2000

Local news web site in Hebrew reports minute ago:. Israeli Special Forces arrested terrorists carrying a radioactive bomb on the Jordanian border, no further details yet.
I will post more info soon.


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To: Missy35
The article is back very detailed and it is referring to a Saudi new paper Here is the URL if someone want to translate it.
According to the story the radioactive suitcase was transferred to the CIA for further study Scary if true
the site is not another Debka as far as I know... http://www.news-israel.net/articles/index/index73.html
42 posted on 10/29/2001 4:01:17 AM PST by ipaq2000
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To: ipaq2000
Now that you're back, why don't you give us more information about this non-English language "news" site. Where in Israel is it located? Who runs it? Is it owned, sponsored, or connected to a radio, tv, newspaper, wire service? Thanks.
43 posted on 10/29/2001 4:01:49 AM PST by YaYa123
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To: Libertarian_4_eva
Its the government thats paralyzed not sharon

I didn't say what he was paralyzed by, did I? Of course it's the government. To get movement here we'll need either a firm kick in some direction, strong enough to make the lefty traitors fall into line, or a new election which razes the left and ushers in someone like Bibi.

44 posted on 10/29/2001 4:08:41 AM PST by Cachelot
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To: ipaq2000
The article is back very detailed and it is referring to a Saudi new paper

Since you're obviously a hebrew reader, could you translate? And give sources, dates, and all that other stuff perhaps IN the article but not doing much good here?

45 posted on 10/29/2001 4:10:39 AM PST by Cachelot
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To: SuzanneC
thanks for "babblefish.com". Unfortunately, it doesn't translate Hebrew. The only other site I've found that does, isn't free.
46 posted on 10/29/2001 4:12:38 AM PST by YaYa123
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To: Cachelot
Wouldn't that be helpful?

Did you look at the site? Made me dizzy....but I did gather from the pictures that Peter, Paul and Mary are touring in Israel.

47 posted on 10/29/2001 4:14:32 AM PST by YaYa123
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To: right_to_defend
We have radiation detectors at our borders. I know because my father, who was a nuclear scientist, was stopped once when carrying "used" test equipment from Canada (those SOBs didn't tell him it was hot!) Israel has two border crossings with Jordan, and I'm sure they have that equipment there as well.
48 posted on 10/29/2001 4:17:11 AM PST by LadyAustin
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To: YaYa123
Here are the highlights of the article : Source is Al Waton a reliable Saudi Newspaper that was informed by his sources in Washington DC that Bin Laden AL QUIDA organization tried unsuccessfully to smuggle a radioactive bomb in a suitcase into Israel on SEP 27.2001. According to the report a Palestinian who has studied Pharmacy in Pakistan was arrested by siraeli secret services while trying to smuggle this suitcase through the Jordanian border (used by Palestinians allot when travel abroad my comment) After searching the guy belongings this box was discovered, after his investigation he admitted link to bin laden group. President Bush was immediately informed by Israel and according to the sources he was ‘’shocked ‘’ when his assistance for national security called him out of meeting to convey him that report.
Radioactive bomb according to article is not a nuclear bomb but it contaminating large area with radioactive radiation when deployed and exploded.
The CIA took over the investigation and the bomb, but it unclear if Israel conveyed the bomb as of yet
the rest of the article bring more background about how the bin ladens trying to acquire nuclear materials since 1998
49 posted on 10/29/2001 4:30:49 AM PST by ipaq2000
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To: YaYa123
http://7am.com/wireidx/world/
"This site is excellent, by the way..."

No kidding! I just bookmarked it in my browser News file favorites. I can go back and remove about 20 links listed there now …LOL. THANKS!!

50 posted on 10/29/2001 4:31:57 AM PST by nimc
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To: ipaq2000
Here are the highlights of the article

Ok. Looks like this may be the one that was reported before. Old news.

51 posted on 10/29/2001 4:33:39 AM PST by Cachelot
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To: D Joyce
I hope we have Geiger Counters along all of our boarders!
52 posted on 10/29/2001 4:37:08 AM PST by BushWonGore'sDone
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To: ipaq2000
Now, let me get this straight....This thread, and your Hebrew language article, originated from AL Watan? An easy google.com check found this:

http://www.watan.com/

"AL Watan
P.O.Box 2306
Anaheim, CA 92814-0306
Tel. (714) 502-9908 Fax (714) 502-9920
E-Mail: watan@watan.com
About Al Watan
Al Watan is a weekly Arab American newspaper dedicated to providing its constituency with up-to-date news breaking information. Al Watan was established in 1992 in Washington DC and has since expanded with three additional locations in San Francisco, Los Angeles, California and New York.

Our mission is to provide customers with the most current, valuable, reliable and informative news on political, economical, social, cultural, and educational issues, which concern the Arab American community and their relations with the US society at-large. Our top-priority is ensuring that ethical business practices are followed through all of our business activities.

Al Watan seeks to achieve its goals through maintaining a positive relationship with the community, promoting business through advertisements and coordinating efforts with Arab and Muslim American organizations to promote the achievements of the community as well as empower them through active involvement in the political, media, social and educational sectors....."

Just for fun I emailed Al Watan and asked for an English version of this story. I'll post their reply... but don't turn blue waiting:)

53 posted on 10/29/2001 4:50:26 AM PST by YaYa123
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To: Stealthy
We need land mines along the entire the southern border. Very un-PC, but true.
55 posted on 10/29/2001 5:04:36 AM PST by hang 'em
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To: American in Israel
bttt
56 posted on 10/29/2001 5:05:06 AM PST by Thinkin' Gal
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To: Stealthy; BushWonGore'sDone
Have these boarders been staying at y'alls place a long time? How much do you charge them?
57 posted on 10/29/2001 5:11:12 AM PST by Alas Babylon!
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To: Cachelot
Now the old, old, old, old story in Hebrew about the backpack device was the unleavened bread that the Chosen People carring on their backs so the sun would dry it when they fled the Pharoh!

As we say Down South, "Shalom, y'all."

58 posted on 10/29/2001 5:12:56 AM PST by MindBender26
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To: ipaq2000
Hey, we can’t all read Hebrew here. Got any reports in English?
59 posted on 10/29/2001 5:21:40 AM PST by Fred25
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To: ipaq2000; YaYa123; Fred25; Cachelot; Missy35; Illbay; Lady GOP; Ranger
I posted this info earlier

Israel Finds Radiological Backpack Bomb

RICHARD SALE, UPI Terrorism Correspondent, United Press International

WASHINGTON, Oct 14, 2001 (United Press International via COMTEX) -- Israeli security last month arrested a man linked to suspected terrorist mastermind Osama bin Laden armed with a radiological backpack bomb, as he attempted to enter Israel from the Palestinian Territories via a border checkpoint at Ramallah, according to U.S. government officials.

The arrest took place during the last week of September, according to one knowledgeable official who spoke on condition of anonymity. He declined to give the exact date of arrest. Two other sources interviewed by UPI confirmed the incident, but also declined to give further details.

"People know how to walk a dog back," one said, meaning that relating too exact an account could lead to the identification of the source of the information. Regarding the arrest, a U.S. government official said: "There was only one individual involved. He was from Pakistan." Another source said U.S. officials believed that the suspect had probably gotten to the territories via Lebanon.

Information on the arrest went immediately to U.S. President Bush and a close circle of advisors, another U.S. official said. He described the appearance and character of the top-secret report circulated among the Cabinet members and signed by each official present.

Former Pentagon terrorism expert, Peter Probst, described a radiological bomb as a device with a small explosive core that is encased in radioactive material. "It would not kill a great many people, but it would contaminate a considerable area with radiation," he said. A U.S. government expert said that the weapon captured by Israel was a backpack device that CIA officials learned about through Russian intelligence agents in place in 1995. He emphasized it was not a so-called nuclear suitcase bomb.

The CIA had intelligence reports from senior Arab intelligence officials alleging that in October 1998 bin Laden had obtained one or two nuclear suitcase weapons from a Central Asian republic in return for $30 million in cash and two tons of heroin worth $70 million - a deal brokered by the Chechen mafia.

Russian Gen. Aleksandr Ivanovich Lebed, a former national security advisor to then-President Yeltsin acknowledged publicly in 1997 that several nuclear suitcase bombs had disappeared from Russia's arsenal. But former CIA counter-terrorism official Vince Cannistraro has no patience with such accounts: "All talk of bin Laden having a nuclear suitcase bomb is crap," he said. Cannistraro could not be reached for comment about the backpack device.

Nuclear suitcase bombs were designed for Soviet Speznatz or special operations troops to assault and destroy NATO command and control bunkers in Europe in the event of a NATO-Soviet war. The devices could not be detonated without matching codes held in strictest security by Moscow, a former CIA official said.

Backpack bombs have no such codes, but they were also designed for Spetznetz forces and have such an intricate and complex system of activation that the ability of a terrorist to detonate one "would be incredibly limited," according to one U.S. government official.

"There is such a complicated sequence you have to perform that some terrorist isn't going to be able to get it to work. You have to be very highly trained," an intelligence official agreed, describing the chances that the device could have been activated as "practically miniscule."

Probst is nevertheless convinced that radiological bombs are still a danger for New York City. "Bin Laden is fascinated by Wall Street. My fear is that he will attempt to smuggle in some "dirty" bomb that wouldn't kill many people but would dangerously contaminate the area," he said. Copyright 2001 by United Press International.

60 posted on 10/29/2001 5:35:43 AM PST by spycatcher
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