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To: Romulus
You sound just like Martha and Mary...

No making some people happy. People complain if you don't show up, people complain if you do...

Actually, my remarks were extremely mild and well winthin the bounds of a practical political discussion.

After all, the Vatican doesn't delude itself over Planned Parenthood. It's hard to understand why they have been so slow in condemning and defunding UNICEF and other globalist organizations. You might like to be their apologists. I won't. The Vatican is basically doing something long overdue and isn't too happy having to admit what a lot of the rest of us knew all along. At least they finally wised up after having given their imprimatur to their enemies for many years. Hopefully, they'll be aggressive in denouncing the U.N. and its full agenda.
33 posted on 10/27/2001 9:28:35 PM PDT by George W. Bush
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To: George W. Bush
It's hard to understand why they have been so slow in condemning and defunding UNICEF and other globalist organizations.

Remember how the Vatican undermined the objectives of the Cairo conference? Short memory. Sometimes it's good to remain in the UN in order to prevent worse things from happening.

35 posted on 10/28/2001 2:30:55 AM PST by Aquinasfan
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To: George W. Bush
The Vatican is basically doing something long overdue and isn't too happy having to admit what a lot of the rest of us knew all along.

That's ridiculous. Remember Cairo? Remember Beijing? Remember IPPF, NOW, and "Catholics" [sic] for a "Free Choice [sic]" trying to get the Vatican thrown out of the UN? Do you think they wouldn't do that if the Vatican presence wasn't bollixing up their agenda?

Maybe you aren't old enough to recall this, but I am. Who was it who led the prolife movement in the beginning? Back in 1973 and before? *Catholics*. Who had the prescience to declare back in 1930 that the coming Protestant cave-in to the contraceptive culture was wrong (and trust me, if you don't think contraception has anything to do with abortion, you need to reread Roe v. Wade, because the Supreme Court disagrees with you)? *Catholics*, specifically Pope Pius XI. Who had the guts to reiterate that POV in 1968, at the height of the so-called "sexual revolution"? *Pope Paul VI*, sadly ignored by most of his flock.

We're the original pro-lifers. Don't waste your breath telling us about what "you knew all along". On the subject of life issues, we've done a lot more teaching than you know about.

Hopefully, they'll be aggressive in denouncing the U.N. and its full agenda.

They're not opposed to "the UN and its full agenda". They're opposed to the idea that sterile sex with anything, and the "right" to kill any offspring that might result, is some sort of human right that the UN needs to endorse or promote.

48 posted on 10/28/2001 11:26:32 AM PST by Campion
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