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To: muawiyah
One of the reasons we have government is "to provide for the common defense".

I provide for the common defense - I pay for it with my tax dollars. Gladly.

I will not pay for it by relinquishing my Constitutional freedoms enumerated by the Founding Fathers you claim to respect.

169 posted on 10/27/2001 5:34:34 PM PDT by Mercuria
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To: Mercuria
From an excellent series of essays by James V. Schall, S.J. Georgetown University:

In the Second Special Assembly for Europe, Archbishop Giuseppe Germano Bernardini, O.F.M.Cap., Archbishop of Izmir, in Turkey, spoke on "the problem of Islam in Europe today" (L'Osservatore Romano, November 17, 1999). "I will make mention three cases that, due to their provenance, I believe to be true," he said.

1) During an official meeting on Islamic-Christian dialogue, an authoritative Muslim person, speaking to the Christians participating, at one point said very calmly and assuredly: "Thanks to your democratic laws we will invade you; thanks to your religious laws we will dominate you..." I would say the enemy expects US to stay the course with our open society, allowing them to infiltrate to their hearts content, sure that we will not give up our right to privacy which they so handily exploit. Remember the terrorist who missed the flights 9/11 and his computer that was protect from government scrutiny?

2) During another Islamic-Christian meeting, always organized by Christians, a Christian participant publically asked the Muslims present why they had not organized at least one meeting of this kind. The Muslim authority present answered in the following words: "Why should we? You have nothing to teach us and we have nothing to learn." A dialogue between deaf persons? It is a fact that terms such as "dialogue", "justice", "reciprocity", or concepts such as "rights of man" and "democracy" have a completely different meaning for Muslims than for us. But I believe that by now this is recognized and admitted by all. We are in harsh times and for a short spell harsh measures are called for, just as they were in WWII; during the second world war, the government didn't bother to pass bills with expiration dates, they just did as they damn well pleased to the constitutional framework. Personally, I'm encouraged that the legislators took the measure to take control over the suspensions instead of winking at the acts as they happen for our benefit ... they suspensions will expire in due course.

3) In a Catholic monastery in Jerusalem there was ... a Muslim Arab servant. A kind and honest person, he was respected greatly by the religious, who in turn were respected by him. One day, he sadly told them: "Our leaders have met and have decided that all "infidels" must be killed, but do not be afraid because I will kill you without making you suffer." This is the attitude that ignores our laws anyway, thus we must have a legislative way to go after these people while still in control of our destinies, thus the expiration dates on the bills.

Are these words anything more than naive or even "extremist" Christian reactions? The Archbishop added: "We are all aware that we must distinguish between the fanatic and violent minority from the tranquil and honest majority, but the latter, at an order given in the name of Allah or the Koran, will always march in unity and without hesitation."

175 posted on 10/27/2001 5:49:26 PM PDT by MHGinTN
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