[muawiyah]

".....against unreasonable searches and seizures,..." During wartime the meaning of "unreasonable" might well change, eh?!

I think we are long overdue going after the terrorists still in the US. Most of our search efforts heretofore were being stymied by peacetime 4th amendment considerations.

[Jolly Rodgers]

During wartime the meaning of "unreasonable" might well change, eh?!

No. No change. Consider Amendment III.

[max61]

I think we are long overdue going after the terrorists still in the US. Most of our search efforts heretofore were being stymied by peacetime 4th amendment considerations.

Wow, how profound. One must wonder how this nation made it through 235 years without having to resort to police state laws that are in direct conflict with the 4th Amendment.

And what was the date in which Congress declared war?.

Funny how all of a sudden the nation is infested with terrorists, where were they 2 months ago?. Why were they not a problem then?. Can we have a list of known terrorist groups?.

Have any more lame excuses to try and justify undermining the Constitution with?.

---max

[exodus]

To: Reagan Man
Amendment 4 -
"The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized."
I guess you must've missed this part.
---max
# 66 by max61
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To: max61
During wartime the meaning of "unreasonable" might well change, eh?!
I think we are long overdue going after the terrorists still in the US.
Most of our search efforts heretofore were being stymied
by peacetime 4th Amendment considerations.
# 103 by muawiyah
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Oh, how inconvenient those stupid God-given rights are.

We are still in "peacetime," muawiyah.
Why should we be told to abandon our rights
when we are not at war?