[dennisw]

You don't need torture where you maim and cripple. Drugs and getting a little physical with 'em will do the trick these days. Not even torture in my book.

The way Saddam Hussein does it ......cutting things off...gouging out eyes... NOW that's torture!

[FITZ]

Depends on what you call torture I guess, drugs with torture---it doesn't have to be gouging out eyes, maybe carefully applied electric current would be better. Anything to save innocent lives. I'd rather hear about these men given electric shocks than see pictures of permanently maimed children in Afghanistan or Americans jumping out of 100 story buildings.