Posted on 10/25/2001 9:33:30 AM PDT by wbill
Edited on 04/13/2004 1:38:29 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]
Officials at St. Cloud (Minn.) State want the University of North Dakota to leave its Fighting Sioux logo at home when its men's hockey team visits Nov. 2. "We don't tolerate hate speech," said Sudie Hofmann, associate professor and chairwoman of St. Cloud State's human relations and multicultural education department. Hofmann thinks the nickname and logo insult American Indians. But North Dakota has received no official request about the logo, athletic director Roger Thomas said Monday. The dispute isn't new. In March, St. Cloud President Roy Saigo submitted a resolution to the NCAA seeking elimination of all American Indian nicknames. Last year Ralph Engelstad, a Sioux hockey goalie about 50 years ago, threatened to pull a $100 million pledge to build a hockey arena. The state's higher education board voted unanimously to keep the nickname, saying it upholds the state's tradition and honors American Indians.
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All too many fall into the 'Well, it's there anyway so I might as well take advantage' group. Or the 'gimme gimme gimme' group.
Or the 'All white people are racist pigs so I'm getting what I deserve' group. Lot of those out there, too.
I always thought "The Pukin' Drunk Irish" would be good, but I've been told I'm a bit weird.
Or the 'All white people are racist pigs so I'm getting what I deserve' group. Lot of those out there, too.
True enough, but look what that has wrought. Most resevations today are stricken with the full range of modern social ills [all of which seem to be most abundant where socialistic government programs are aimed]. The few who bring themselves up from there by honest means are considered (by popular culture) to be aberrant when they should be considered heroic.
In the face of the ample perverse incentives of our popular culture, it is fair to expect that you will be able to find plenty of people who succomb.
The reality is that most American Indians are very patriotic [note that in my family we have always put "American" first]. You wouldn't believe that if you relied on the "facts" offered by academicians.
[bad fingers! bad!]
Dogs have nothing to do with it! They're clearly trying to insult fat little boys who have to bear the taunts and name-calling of their caloricly efficient school-mates. St. Cloud State are Avoirdupoist Swine!
West Virginia Mountaineer:
white man
with a gun
who celebrates by FIRING that gun
whose motto is Montani semper liberi, meaning
"Mountaineers are always free."
Hard to get less PC than that.
Yeah, when I was touring Ireland I learned that the locals use "Vikings" in a derogatory way, such as when they see a particularly bad driver coming, "Watch out, it's a Viking!" "Vikings" is obviously a term of hate speech.
My junior high was called The Horned Toads. It was embarrassing.
The point of a mascot is to be a source of pride and honor for the team. Generally they are strong or awe-inspiring ... [post #7]
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I see what you mean (image from federal trademark database).
"Don't charismatic leaders usually turn out to be egomaniacal, philandering sociopaths?"
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