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More Mascot Nonsense (my title)
USA Today College Hockey ^

Posted on 10/25/2001 9:33:30 AM PDT by wbill

Edited on 04/13/2004 1:38:29 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

Officials at St. Cloud (Minn.) State want the University of North Dakota to leave its Fighting Sioux logo at home when its men's hockey team visits Nov. 2. "We don't tolerate hate speech," said Sudie Hofmann, associate professor and chairwoman of St. Cloud State's human relations and multicultural education department. Hofmann thinks the nickname and logo insult American Indians. But North Dakota has received no official request about the logo, athletic director Roger Thomas said Monday. The dispute isn't new. In March, St. Cloud President Roy Saigo submitted a resolution to the NCAA seeking elimination of all American Indian nicknames. Last year Ralph Engelstad, a Sioux hockey goalie about 50 years ago, threatened to pull a $100 million pledge to build a hockey arena. The state's higher education board voted unanimously to keep the nickname, saying it upholds the state's tradition and honors American Indians.


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To: Dakmar
Change the name from the Fightin' Irish to the Wussie Irish and I think there will be some kind of outcry.
41 posted on 10/25/2001 11:27:51 AM PDT by oyez
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To: Crusader Rabbit
I am very impressed with your extremely high standards. If only more people had the same moral fiber......

All too many fall into the 'Well, it's there anyway so I might as well take advantage' group. Or the 'gimme gimme gimme' group.

Or the 'All white people are racist pigs so I'm getting what I deserve' group. Lot of those out there, too.

42 posted on 10/25/2001 11:28:34 AM PDT by wbill
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To: oyez
Change the name from the Fightin' Irish to the Wussie Irish and I think there will be some kind of outcry.

I always thought "The Pukin' Drunk Irish" would be good, but I've been told I'm a bit weird.

43 posted on 10/25/2001 11:50:10 AM PDT by Dakmar
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To: wbill
All too many fall into the 'Well, it's there anyway so I might as well take advantage' group. Or the 'gimme gimme gimme' group.

Or the 'All white people are racist pigs so I'm getting what I deserve' group. Lot of those out there, too.

True enough, but look what that has wrought. Most resevations today are stricken with the full range of modern social ills [all of which seem to be most abundant where socialistic government programs are aimed]. The few who bring themselves up from there by honest means are considered (by popular culture) to be aberrant when they should be considered heroic.

In the face of the ample perverse incentives of our popular culture, it is fair to expect that you will be able to find plenty of people who succomb.

The reality is that most American Indians are very patriotic [note that in my family we have always put "American" first]. You wouldn't believe that if you relied on the "facts" offered by academicians.

44 posted on 10/25/2001 12:42:15 PM PDT by Crusader Rabbit
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To: Crusader Rabbit
By "succomb" I mean "succumb".

[bad fingers! bad!]

45 posted on 10/25/2001 12:52:49 PM PDT by Crusader Rabbit
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To: 07055
The nickname of the St. Cloud team is the "Huskies."

Dogs have nothing to do with it! They're clearly trying to insult fat little boys who have to bear the taunts and name-calling of their caloricly efficient school-mates. St. Cloud State are Avoirdupoist Swine!

46 posted on 10/25/2001 1:08:09 PM PDT by Gumlegs
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To: wbill
F them. They either take the team as it is, or they FORFEIT.
47 posted on 10/25/2001 1:10:55 PM PDT by Timesink
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To: wbill
The best Non-PC mascot

West Virginia Mountaineer:
white man
with a gun
who celebrates by FIRING that gun
whose motto is Montani semper liberi, meaning
"Mountaineers are always free."

Hard to get less PC than that.

48 posted on 10/25/2001 2:25:01 PM PDT by jrewingjr
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To: GuillermoX
Did they also petition the Minnesota VIKINGS and the NFL to have their own hometown team change its name?

Yeah, when I was touring Ireland I learned that the locals use "Vikings" in a derogatory way, such as when they see a particularly bad driver coming, "Watch out, it's a Viking!" "Vikings" is obviously a term of hate speech.

49 posted on 10/25/2001 2:28:54 PM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: KillerWabbit; Crusader Rabbit; Psycho_Bunny; Snow Bunny; Jessica Rabbit
And Wisconsin has Jessica Rabbit
52 posted on 10/25/2001 2:32:40 PM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: FreeTally
Sports teams are generally named after something fierce, tough and hard to defeat,

My junior high was called The Horned Toads. It was embarrassing.

53 posted on 10/25/2001 2:35:02 PM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: wbill
Howz bouts the "Gay Minority Native American AIDS Victim Endangered Species" for a team name/mascot?
54 posted on 10/25/2001 2:37:46 PM PDT by Jefferson Adams
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To: cdwright
I remember when even the Stanford 'Indians' was banned. This new level of PC police is getting absurd. Now just to mention a minority is off-limits. What a joke.
55 posted on 10/25/2001 2:41:19 PM PDT by RobertBauman
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To: LoneGOPinCT

The point of a mascot is to be a source of pride and honor for the team. Generally they are strong or awe-inspiring ... [post #7]

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I see what you mean (image from federal trademark database).

56 posted on 10/25/2001 2:42:29 PM PDT by berserker
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To: afraidfortherepublic
You SHOULD be afraid. Once the Bunny Brigade takes over and I'm crowned Emperor Bunny/Supreme Overlord of the Universe, all the rest of you are going to be good for is fetching us carrots and scratching us behind the ears.
57 posted on 10/25/2001 2:54:40 PM PDT by Psycho_Bunny
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To: berserker
I wish these leftist demogouge/academicians would just attend one of the big pow-wows. Until they've seen it for themselves they would never believe how many "Chief Wahoo" images are displayed. Seems like a lot of the regulars are Cleveland Indians fans.
58 posted on 10/25/2001 3:52:37 PM PDT by Crusader Rabbit
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To: LoneGOPinCT
I'm still trying to figure out how the Mariners wound up with a moose for a mascot.
59 posted on 10/25/2001 3:54:30 PM PDT by tomakaze
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To: Psycho_Bunny
Borrowing a line from Bob the Dinosaur
"Don't charismatic leaders usually turn out to be egomaniacal, philandering sociopaths?"

60 posted on 10/25/2001 3:58:00 PM PDT by Crusader Rabbit
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