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Anti-war view isn't by itself unpatriotic (want a bet?)
Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel ^ | 10/23/01 | Philip Chard

Posted on 10/23/2001 1:54:33 PM PDT by UB355

Kathleen is a person of peace.(Oh Please, but now you know what follows)

And, recently, that has earned her a lot of conflict.

She is a member of a small minority of Americans who believe our nation should not conduct a military war on terrorism - just a financial and diplomatic one. According to recent polls, she and her kindred spirits account for less than 15% of our citizenry.

Lately, she has begun to feel that the war on terrorism is, to some degree, being waged against people like her, as well as al-Qaida.

"I've been screamed at, called a 'traitor' and, in one instance, threatened with physical violence," she explained, her voice burdened with sadness.

What has Kathleen done to deserve these verbal assaults? Burned the American flag? Marched in anti-war demonstrations? Defended bin Laden?

Courage of convictions

None of the above. During conversations with family, neighbors and co-workers, she has quietly and respectfully expressed her opinion that war is not the answer.

"In America right now, being a voice for peace requires more courage than it did a few weeks ago," she reflected.

Throughout her 50-some years, Kathleen's heroes have not been generals, warriors or CIA agents. Instead, she has looked to the likes of Gandhi, Martin Luther King Jr., John Lennon and Jesus Christ, to name a few.

These proponents of non-violent action, while still publicly admired (and, in the case of Christ, religiously worshipped), have not been invoked a great deal since Sept. 11. Their messages of peace and reconciliation have largely disappeared in a fog of rage.

"I understand better now why so many peacemakers have been persecuted or assassinated," Kathleen explained. "The need for vengeance is very strong in some human hearts, and someone who tries to pacify that need often becomes its next target."

"Do you consider yourself a patriot?" I asked her.

"Very much so," she replied. "I love this country deeply. It has its problems, but it is a nation of high ideals and hope."

What does it take?

"What do you think being a patriot requires?" I wondered.

"There's more to it than sticking an American flag on your car," she answered. "If you truly believe in what this country stands for - liberty and equality - then you respect and protect the right of your fellow citizens to disagree with your point of view."

I recalled the anthems on the home front during the Vietnam War: "My country, right or wrong, but my country," along with "Love it or leave it." Once again a debate rages in media circles and on street corners about political dissent during times of armed conflict.

Some argue that speaking out against military action while the nation's troops are in peril aids and abets our enemies and undermines morale. Others maintain that suppressing freedom of speech plays into the hands of the terrorists, helping them achieve the objective of subverting the world's greatest democracy.

"It doesn't surprise me that people don't agree with me and that they want to debate me," Kathleen explained. "I welcome that. What surprises and disappoints me is that they attempt to intimidate me into silence."

By definition, patriotism is love of one's country and what it stands for. A big part of what America stands for is freedom of speech, the right to disagree with the majority without being harassed or silenced.

Patriotism is not about intolerance and repression.

Terrorism is.

Contact Philip Chard at (262) 547-3986, e-mail him at pschard@earthlink.net, or visit his Web site at www.healingnature.com. Appeared in the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel on Oct. 23, 2001.


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1 posted on 10/23/2001 1:54:33 PM PDT by UB355
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To: UB355
. "The need for vengeance is very strong in some human hearts, and someone who tries to pacify that need often becomes its next target."

The need for a violent response in this case is not because of a need for vengeance, it is a rational need to put a stop to the mass killings. If we don't take these necessary steps now, my dear Kathleen, you may be next.

3 posted on 10/23/2001 2:01:13 PM PDT by Topaz
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To: RetiredArmy
Which Army?

You certainly aren't a gentleman.

Please: NO profanity, NO personal attacks, NO racism or violence in posts.

4 posted on 10/23/2001 2:01:44 PM PDT by KirklandJunction
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To: RetiredArmy
Yup! That said it all! :)
6 posted on 10/23/2001 2:04:50 PM PDT by MistyCA
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To: UB355
"I've been screamed at, called a 'traitor' and, in one instance, threatened with physical violence,.... If the shoe fits!
7 posted on 10/23/2001 2:06:25 PM PDT by shellylet
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To: UB355
Jesus Christ was peaceful when he was on earth, but when he returns, he will be on a white horse and carrying a sword. As for Ghandi, India just started shooting over Kashmir, I'd say that makes Ghandi a failure. Martin Luther King Jr.'s crudade was at first a good thing, but now its a cheerlead for Democrats, John Lennon was a socialist freak musician. We all know how peaceful socialism is.

Kathy's philosophy is suicide for America.

8 posted on 10/23/2001 2:08:32 PM PDT by pulaskibush
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To: KirklandJunction
Oh! PO-LEEEEZE! Every good and decent gentleman I know will express similar words! If you think for one moment that we will ever stand down to the likes of those who spat in the face of our military after Vietnam, paraded the likes of the Clintoons before us who love peace and justice as much as the next guy....but who differ vastly inasmuch as they have the GUTS necessary to stand up and protect your right to be an idiot!....you are very wrong! The peaceniks of today and yesterday are irrelevant!
9 posted on 10/23/2001 2:10:44 PM PDT by MistyCA
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To: UB355
She is a member of a small minority of Americans who believe our nation should not conduct a military war on terrorism - just a financial and diplomatic one.

Does anyone think she might be part of group of people who complain about the sanctions we place on places like Iraq, or could place on Afghanistan, while it's the leaders of these despot countries that cause the most harm to its people?

10 posted on 10/23/2001 2:12:39 PM PDT by phillibuck
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To: Topaz
i agree this is not about vengeance it's about self-preservation, the other side isn't looking for a political solution. the deal with pacifists is they beleive the other side is wanting peace and if we could just get together we could make everyone happy, that didn't work with hitler and it won't work here. they are not bad people, in the past and in the future there will be legitimate times when their help is needed to moderate blood thirsty governments, here unfortunately it is the other side that has the thirst for blood. our blood.
11 posted on 10/23/2001 2:14:21 PM PDT by veryconernedamerican
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To: RetiredArmy
"Let me be the first to respond. Katy is a stupid, dumb bitch, socialist, communist, wind bag. There that should cover it."

So good, it needed to be said twice.
13 posted on 10/23/2001 2:14:38 PM PDT by DonPaulJones
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To: AR15_Patriot
I would defend to my death her right to free speech. I would also defend to my death my right to free speech and to confront this traitor and shout "Traitor!" at the top of my lungs at her. This IS NOT A PERSONAL ATTACK! This is a response to evil that takes the form of so-called pacifism that is extremely dangerous to my well-being these days.

I will confront these traitors anywhere they congregate. If they think anti-war protest is going to be a fun, touchy feely day's work we'll try to bring the reality of that first attack on America home to them.

It goes without saying that violence is not the answer to these stupid naive misguided souls. Verbal confrontation is. A thousand people yelling "Traitors all!" to a thousand of these traitors should do the trick.

14 posted on 10/23/2001 2:16:25 PM PDT by at bay
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To: UB355
in the case of Christ, religiously worshipped

This is the new-age version of Jesus, not the Jesus found in the Bible.

Jesus did preach peace and loving your neighbor, but he did not say never be a solidier, or that all wars were unjust.

There are numerous instances of soldiers in the New Testament, never is there any condemnation of the fact that they were soldiers.

Check the last part of Revelation. Not only does Jesus come back and lead an army, he does all of the fighting.

As individuals we are not to get justice on our own. Governements were created to do that. Sometimes that includes war.

17 posted on 10/23/2001 2:25:13 PM PDT by Brookhaven
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To: UB355
"The Just Shall Live By Faith" Recalling the Sept. 11th of an earlier time.

A case for a 'right war' with a 'right heart'.

God has already 'won' this war. Just being sure that we all agree that we have 'One Nation Under God'.

18 posted on 10/23/2001 2:27:17 PM PDT by d14truth
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To: UB355
If she wants to emulate John Lennon's peaceful practices, she'd better start slapping her spouse around.
19 posted on 10/23/2001 2:27:48 PM PDT by mrs. a
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To: RetiredArmy
That exactly how Sgt. Up Ying Yang described the Fulung Gong 80 year old women as he draggd her by the hair into the army van. I take it you are not a compassionate republican?
20 posted on 10/23/2001 2:29:30 PM PDT by Bob Burnett
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