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To: Tempest
No no no no...my whole point is that it is rude when liberals do it, and it is rude when we do it too.

But from reading the responses to these postings, I should realize that there is a very strong distinction between populist conservatives and more traditionalist conservatives.

There is a famous exchange between St.Thomas More and his son in law in the Play A Man for All Seasons, in which St. More declares that he would give benefit of the laws (substitute civility and manners) to the devil himself, for if he were to cut down all the laws (civility and manners) to chase the devil, when the devil turned around on him, there would be no laws (civility and manners) to protect him!

44 posted on 10/23/2001 2:03:17 PM PDT by watsonfellow
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To: watsonfellow
But from reading the responses to these postings, I should realize that there is a very strong distinction between populist conservatives and more traditionalist conservatives.

With that pomposity, you're not gonna last too long around here. There's little tolerance for condescending gasbags around these parts.

65 posted on 10/23/2001 2:07:08 PM PDT by NYC GOP Chick
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To: watsonfellow
You are wandering close to the "pacifists argument" here. If you're going to quote More then quote him and not Robert Bolt, whose politics are unfamiliar.
66 posted on 10/23/2001 2:07:27 PM PDT by solon_where_r_u
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To: watsonfellow
What do you mean, "...when we do it"? When "we" do what? Who said the cops and firemen were "conservative"? Do you know them all?

You're just a school yard contrarian. A stupid post on a stupid thread.

126 posted on 10/23/2001 2:20:16 PM PDT by Deb
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To: watsonfellow
I repeat.

You are a democraticunderground.com disruptor.

You outted yourself when you referred to President Bush as shrub.

I don't believe a word you say.

BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO.

219 posted on 10/23/2001 2:52:12 PM PDT by Rogmonster
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To: watsonfellow
As a one time resident, albeit for less than 2 yrs, of the Ivy covered towers of academia, let me point out a fact of life.

REAL LIFE GETS MESSY. DEAL WITH IT OR IT DEALS YOU OUT.

These people have been too recently involved in the mud & blood of reality to suffer such people as her lightly. Now....get on with your studies.

264 posted on 10/23/2001 3:05:07 PM PDT by Khurkris
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To: watsonfellow
OF COURSE it's "rude" to "Boo" Hillary; there is a long & noble tradition of "BOOING" unpopular civic "leaders" in our Nation--Dating "back" to "Pre-Revolutionary Times!"

THUS SPEAK "The Citizens!"

"Hillary" is the sad product of a "Wellesley Education in the '70's,"---UTTERLY isolated from the Nation she inhabits, & utterly convinced that HER view of "reality" is accurate.

She was "booed" because she has proven herself to be intellectually incapable of modifying or adapting her "Wellesley Girl Indoctrination" to accomodate a reality Far Different from her "Programmed Beliefs!"---she was "booed" for manipulating a NY Senate race (without the Intellectual power to "sit as an equal" with the rest of the Senate).

She was "Booed" because of her utter inability to act in a dignified manner--or even ACT dignified!

She was "Booed" because she embraces the ANTITHESIS of the deeply held social & Religious beliefs of the VAST Majority of the "audience" of that concert! Her "Senate Representation of NY" is a FRAUD--& THESE "New Yorkers" KNOW IT!

Doc

405 posted on 10/23/2001 4:59:50 PM PDT by Doc On The Bay
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To: watsonfellow
While you have been idly "traipsing" through Europe these past few weeks, the firefighters and family members (of victims) in Madison Square Garden have been digging through rubble and dealing with the loss of loved ones. They have earned the right to boo and be rude to a selfish, clutching, shrewish woman who has done nothing worthwhile in her petty life but to ride her husband's coattails to the top of the political world, stepping and crushing anybody who would get in her way. All for the purpose of getting in position to further her socialist, marxist agenda upon the United States of America (while feathering her own nest along the way). The woman is poison.

For the past eight years, we have seen Hillary use the power of the presidency (through her husband) to shield herself from real people and to live in a bubble where she can further her agenda without having to endure public scrutiny.

Well now that her husband is just a pathetic layabout and she is just the junior senator from New York, Hillary must now for the first time in her life be held accountable for her actions and to face people who were not hand-picked beforehand by staffers. When she got in front of the crowd at Madison Square Garden, she was facing real people and not flacks and lackeys. The reception she got that night was the same reception she would get from 90% of the rest of America and it was a beautiful thing to behold.

In a way, I am happy that Hillary was able to squeak out a win last November and take the senate seat. Otherwise, she would be in obscurity, plotting out her next move for 2004 or 2008. After four or eight years of being out of the public eye, chances were that Hillary would have been able to reinvent herself. Instead, she is a public official, front and center in a time of great crisis and she has failed miserably. Even her own previously clueless constituents now see her for what she really is. And any hope at all of a presidential run has been permanently extinguished.

I was proud to be an American the night Hillary was booed off the stage at Madison Square Garden. It was the happiest moment I have had since the events of 9/11. I only wish I could have been there myself to join in the chorus.

Speaking of happy moments, I just had another one today when I saw Fox News briefly cover the O.J. trial. This murdering scumbag is now on trial for road rage or something like that. The beauty of this is that if convicted, O.J. faces some serious jail time. As much as 16 years. And on this go-around, it is a total non-event, barely mentioned in the news except in passing. The media is treating O.J. as the common criminal dirtbag he is. If O.J. is convicted, I will be almost as happy as I was when Hillary got booed off the stage at Madison Square Garden. Even if he "only" gets a couple of years. This piece of human garbage will probably get murdered in prison because the prison guards will be too busy looking the other way or buried in a newspaper to see what might happen to him.

Hillary and O.J. are symbolic of the 1990s, a decade of unparalled decadence. It is great to finally see them getting their due.

426 posted on 10/23/2001 5:20:08 PM PDT by SamAdams76
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To: watsonfellow
I just had a mental chat with St. Thomas and he said that just this once it was ok if conservatives sided with the booers. Actually, I was impressed with the restraint of the New Yorkers, God help Hillery if they really let go!
429 posted on 10/23/2001 5:23:06 PM PDT by mountainfolk
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To: watsonfellow
" . . . a very strong distinction between populist conservatives and more traditionalist conservatives . . . "

I will take a wild guess here and assume that the populists are the "pro-booing" party and the traditionalists are the "thank you ma'am, may I have another" party. Speaking as a staunch Tory, which is about as traditionalist as you can get, I consider booing fairly tame. I would much rather she were tarred and feathered and sent out of town on a rail. And that's only because burning at the stake is generally thought to be unconstitutional.

446 posted on 10/23/2001 5:59:22 PM PDT by Goetz_von_Berlichingen
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To: watsonfellow
Time to get back to your "Traipsing". You stuffed shirt.
553 posted on 10/24/2001 7:50:15 AM PDT by Pompah
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