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Powell criticised for remarks on Kashmir : GET TOUGH WITH PAKISTAN
New York Post ^ | Oct 22, 2001 | Jonathan Foreman, New York Post; Oct 22, 2001; pg. 025

Posted on 10/23/2001 6:56:45 AM PDT by Rahul

Edited on 05/26/2004 5:01:45 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

US Secretary of State Colin Powell has come in for sharp criticism in a leading daily for terming Kashmir as the core issue between New Delhi and Islamabad, which, it said, has alienated a powerful and increasingly important ally, India. The New York Post column also flayed Powell for trying to bolster the Musharraf regime and for saying moderate Taliban could be part of a future governing set-up in Afghanistan.


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It's time to destroy the Taliban and Pak together. Once and for all.
1 posted on 10/23/2001 6:56:45 AM PDT by Rahul
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To: Rahul
Powell is such an idiot. I hope we're there to grab their nukes if need be.
2 posted on 10/23/2001 7:11:28 AM PDT by spycatcher
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To: Zordas
Pak is the father of Taliban. If we want to get rid of terrorism then at some point we need to target the Pakistan and Pakistani terrorist camp.

US is in very good position to nail the Pakistan down for its open support to terrorism from its soil.

Time for the whole world to cut the links with Pakistan and let the Pakistan pay for all his terrorist activities.

4 posted on 10/23/2001 7:43:14 AM PDT by Daveforjustice
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To: Zordas
CIA invented the Taliban. Another big lie.

Islamic fundamentalists and mass murderers invented the Taliban in order to create a pure Islamic Nation in Afghanistan. The CIA, acting on behalf of the United States and its Western Allies, supported so-called Freedom fighters to prevent a Soviet-Back Communist Regime from establishing itself in Afghanistan and using the country as a base to topple other unstable governments in the region. Quit repeating leftist lies. We need a strong CIA to protect America from Mass Murderers.

5 posted on 10/23/2001 7:54:49 AM PDT by prometheus
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To: Rahul
There is a another thread to this. It is been learnt that China alongwith Pakistan is assisting the Taliban to fight against US.

According to reports from Islamabad, Haqqani, who was in the Pakistani capital to hold talks with officials, told reporters that "China is still assisting Taliban in the war against the United States". He also said the Afghan militia "continued to be in touch with Beijing".

Time to teach China a lesson too now.

6 posted on 10/23/2001 7:58:32 AM PDT by Daveforjustice
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To: Rahul
We need to tell Colin Powell to shut up and stop saying that the "more moderate" Taliban can have a place in the post-war government. That is like saying the "more moderate" Nazis should have had a place in the post Hilter government. How can you tell a more moderate Taliban anyway? The Taliban need to pay for their crimes against the Afghan people, not be rewarded for being "moderate."

Powell has also blunder the explosive Pakistani and India situation by his support for the terrorist Muslim state, ruled by a military pretender. Pakistan has no intention of replacing the madrassas, those religious dens that teach young boys as young as the age to six to hate and kill Americans, with a system of sane public schooling. Powell also has bungled our relationship with democratic, pluralistic, secular India which often is a target of Islamic terrorists. Now he has botched the budding relationship with Putin and the new Russia by his moderation towards the abnominable Taliban.

It is also ridiculous to think that the former King, Zahir Shah is a practical solution to the divisions of Afghanistan since he is an old man who could die at any time, and isn't popular in his former country anyway.

7 posted on 10/23/2001 8:02:48 AM PDT by prometheus
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To: Rahul
I'd love to see General Norman Schwarzkopf as our Secretary of State, instead of Mr. Powell. Powell is to wishy washy.

General Schwarzkopf is a tall imposing figure and his words would be stern and well heeded by all world leaders, most especially the Moslem states.

8 posted on 10/23/2001 8:09:43 AM PDT by zbogwan2
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http://www.nypost.com/apstories/V4763.htm

PAKISTAN MILITANTS VOW TO STORM BASE

JACOBABAD, Pakistan (AP) . Police erected blockades and sandbag bunkers across a southern city Tuesday, girding for mass demonstrations after Islamic militants vowed to storm a Pakistani air base being used to support U.S. military personnel.

More than 100 people had been arrested by midmorning after a protest inside Jacobabad, site of Shahbaz Air Base, though the unrest was not widespread. Most shops were closed and many streets were deserted except for police, army and paramilitary troops.

Islamic militants summoned by Jamaat-e-Islami, Pakistan's largest and most influential religious party, vowed to seize the base Tuesday afternoon. The party had vowed to marshal thousands of supporters.

It wants to expel U.S. personnel supporting the U.S.-led military campaign designed to root out terrorist installations in Afghanistan belonging to Osama bin Laden, top suspect in the Sept. 11 terror attacks on the United States.

Most roads to the city have been blocked and patrolled for days to prevent mass entry, though some were reported open Tuesday. During the morning, about 200 militant Muslims appeared inside the city, chanting anti-government slogans. They made no immediate move toward the base three miles away.

Police rushed them with batons, ordering them to disperse. Nearly all were arrested, according to an Associated Press photographer on the scene who said at least five protesters appeared to have been injured by batons.

Two more small groups of demonstrators . one of 25 people, the other of about 15 . were arrested shortly afterward when they started to march toward the base. Authorities said they had been hiding in houses and were emerging sporadically.

Earlier, Jacobabad Police Chief Akhtar Shah said authorities had also arrested about 100 activists since Sunday to prevent air-base-related demonstrations. The militants claim to have thousands more ready.

``We will reach the air base at any cost,'' said Maulana Abdul Hafeez Bajarani, a Jamaat-e-Islami spokesman in Jacobabad.

On Monday, the head of Jamaat-e-Islami was barred by police from traveling . an attempt to defuse the planned demonstrations. The leader, Qazi Hussain Ahmed, was visibly angry.

``The days of this government are numbered, and Musharraf will no longer be in power after a few days,'' he said at the airport in the eastern city of Lahore. He wouldn't elaborate.

Jamaat-e-Islami said police had arrested at least 1,100 supporters over the past two days; authorities say the number is far lower.

Other activists have gone into hiding, determined to avoid arrest until they make it to Jacobabad for the protest, Jamaat-e-Islami said.

On Oct. 14, Islamic militants fought running street battles with police in Jacobabad. One protester was killed as mobs fought to reach the air base.

Hundreds of activists were arrested before that rally as well, though most were freed afterward. Three leading Islamic clerics were placed under house arrest at the start of the campaign, another pre-emptive move to block opposition. One has since been released.

President Gen. Pervez Musharraf's government says Pakistan is lending only logistical support to the United States. He has promised that no attacks on Afghanistan will be staged from Pakistani soil.

Musharraf has insisted for weeks that most of Pakistan is behind him, and protests . while loud and sometimes violent . have been scattered and have included only a sliver of Pakistan's population.

``Yes, there are risks,'' Musharraf said Tuesday on CNN's ``Larry King Live.'' ``But I know that a vast majority of the country is supporting whatever decision I took.''

10 posted on 10/23/2001 8:23:24 AM PDT by Daveforjustice
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To: Zordas
Pakistan and the CIA invented the Taliban.

The CIA? That is a lie. General Massood personaly appealed to the US complaining that Pakistan was at the core of the support for the Taleban. http://www.ciriello.com/46massud.html#anchor

11 posted on 10/23/2001 8:26:44 AM PDT by lavaroise
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To: Rahul
One would hope that Powell's public prostrations are just that ... for public view only. The pakis should be second on our list ... right behind the taliban. This nation does not deserve to be a nation any longer. Its leaders and its inteligence service have been a first line enemy for a long time. Funding and organizing terrorism against us.

The trick is.... how to get in there and sieze those nukes without losing thousands of our soldiers and not having any nukes flying in the process. If invasion is not possible (there are about 160 million pakis) than a squeeze play between the US and India is the second best option. They must be compressed untill they can hardly breath and forced to do exactly what we want them to do. All this nice nice that Powell 'seems' to be so adicted to is what got us into this mess in the first place.

12 posted on 10/23/2001 8:26:46 AM PDT by mercy
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To: mercy
Well said dude.

Us must realize to distinguish between real friends and enemies.

Pakistan cannot be trusted. If they can leave their own creation Taliban alone to die then who else can trust Pakistan for their support.

13 posted on 10/23/2001 8:32:19 AM PDT by Rahul
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"They (USA) still classify terrorists of the Taliban mould as 'freedom fighters' as long as these terrorists fight India, China, Russia, Shia moslems and not America. Now that is the dangerous game that can very well blow up on America's face, as it already did on Sept 11. And people would be right to point out that American foreign policy has the blood of its own civilians on its hands."

That's always been the source of all problems. How can one justify attacking the terrorists in one part of the world and sparing them in other nations like the killing of innocent people by Pakistan army and Pakistan based terrorist in India. This is a double standard been followed.

If we want to eliminate this threat then we have to uproot this from all nations.

14 posted on 10/23/2001 8:37:50 AM PDT by Rahul
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To: Rahul
I never liked Powell since he played both ends against the middle during the attempted election theft in Florida, hoping he could be SOS no matter which candidate moved into the White House. However, I will never again second guess President Bush. He's much smarter than I'll ever be.
15 posted on 10/23/2001 8:45:37 AM PDT by Terry Mross
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17 posted on 10/23/2001 9:18:23 AM PDT by anymouse
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