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To: WCF51
Nonsense. The two state solution was always the plan. Lan for peace has always been Israeli policy. All they have to do is make peace, and they get the land. This is apparantly too high a price to ask of Arafat. It was the Jordanians and Egyptians who usurped the Palestinian territory, and it was Israel who liberated it. Only Israel has given them autonomy, and only Israel has negotiated with them for their sovereignty. Egypt and Jordan considered it their land, and never gave any thought towards giving the Palestinians autonomy.

Israel can thrive without US aid. They have per capita incomes apx 5 times greater than Jordan or Egypt or Syria or Lebanon. They have foreign reserves approaching $30B, among the top in the world. Their economy is greater than several EU nations. The Intel chip in your computer was probably designed in Israel. ICQ chat software was developed in Israel. They innovated water conservation and irrigation techniques that are now the standard in industrialized nations. Israel has more PhD's per capita than any other nation on earth. If Israel didn't have to allocate so much of her resources to defense she would probably be twice as prosperous as she is today.

The problem has always been with the Palestinian leadership. Since 1964 (3 years before occupation) they have been avowed enemies of Israel, vowing to destroy her and drive the Jews into the sea. And you expect them to make unilateral concessions to an enemy that yearns to destroy them? You want the USA to force one country to withdraw before the other side agrees to peace? What stupid nonsense.

There will be a Palestinian state, and Israel will withdraw, just as soon as Arafat is gone and the Paletinian people have a Constitutional democracy that guarantees freedom of speech, universal sufferage, freedom of the press, due process, freedom of religion. It is bad policy and bad precedent for the USA to negotiate with terrorists, and bad policy to assist in the creation of yet another brutal despotic Arab regime.

38 posted on 10/23/2001 9:42:17 AM PDT by monkeyshine
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To: monkeyshine
Don't "cloud" the issue with too many facts.
40 posted on 10/23/2001 9:46:09 AM PDT by l33t
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To: monkeyshine
And you really believe all the Zionist propaganda bull? I don't!
43 posted on 10/23/2001 10:05:08 AM PDT by WCF51
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To: monkeyshine
If Israel doesn't need any financial backing from the US, then I say they should have none. If they don't need our money, then why are they taking it? Anyway, Israel is a liability to the US and has been. However, if they cooperate, really cooperate, and help to implement the two state solution, then I support the US being a neutral peace-keeping presence there along with other UN members. Sharon is a worse terrorist than Arafat in many ways.
46 posted on 10/23/2001 10:10:13 AM PDT by WCF51
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