Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

To: A2J
He's just mad that Jesus and Paul were not libertarians. This fact prevents them from using Jesus, Paul, et al, as icons of their religion.

When dealing with taxes, Jesus either said "if they want it that bad, go ahead and give it to them" and had Peter go get a fish to get the tax payments out of its mouth (a mocking response that I believe is the only miracle Jesus ever did that benefited Himself).

The term "tax collectors" hardly ever appears in the NT without "and sinners" nearby (anyone ever see a Biblical reference to "rug murchants and sinners" or "tent makers and sinners"?

Jesus refused to even speak to Pilate, the hightest ranking govt official He ever dealt with (although I'm doing this one from memory) except to say "If you say so" when Pilate demanded answers or some sort of defense from Him.

The pivotal act in the Gospels is the govt murder of an innocent man.
17 posted on 10/23/2001 9:10:44 AM PDT by sendtoscott
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 12 | View Replies ]


To: Uriel1975
ping
18 posted on 10/23/2001 9:12:24 AM PDT by sendtoscott
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 17 | View Replies ]

To: sendtoscott
"When dealing with taxes, Jesus either said "if they want it that bad, go ahead and give it to them" and had Peter go get a fish to get the tax payments out of its mouth (a mocking response that I believe is the only miracle Jesus ever did that benefited Himself)."

Jesus said to "give to Caesar what is Caesar's," indicating that there is nothing inherently evil about government requiring taxes from its citizens. How else would you fund a military? Regarding unnecessary expenditures, you and I would probably agree.

"The term "tax collectors" hardly ever appears in the NT without "and sinners" nearby (anyone ever see a Biblical reference to "rug murchants and sinners" or "tent makers and sinners"?"

The term "tax collector" carried a less than complimentary reaction due to the Jewish men who were paid by the Roman government to collect the taxes for them. These Jews would oftentimes collect 4-5 times more than what the citizen was required by Rome, all of which went into their pockets.

Virtually every occupation can be corrupted to the extent that it loses respect with people. Being a "tax collector" is not necessarily a bad thing.

"Jesus refused to even speak to Pilate, the hightest ranking govt official He ever dealt with (although I'm doing this one from memory) except to say "If you say so" when Pilate demanded answers or some sort of defense from Him."

Jesus had to refuse to answer Pilate for the mere fact that Pilate was already inclined to release Him. Had Jesus revealed who He was to Pilate, He would have been immediately released, thus negating the purpose for Him coming to earth (i.e., to die for all sinners).

"The pivotal act in the Gospels is the govt murder of an innocent man."

Agreed, although there were "witnesses" that testified of the so-called "crimes" that Jesus committed. Because He chose not to defend Himself, He set the stage for His crucifixion.

27 posted on 10/23/2001 10:10:21 AM PDT by A2J
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 17 | View Replies ]

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article


FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson