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Farrakhan: War can end through process of atonement
Nation of Islam ^ | October 17, 2001 | James Muhammad

Posted on 10/22/2001 1:00:00 PM PDT by Map Kernow

CHICAGO (FinalCall.com)—If America would adopt the process of atonement, she would remain strong hundreds of years into the future, said the Honorable Minister Louis Farrakhan during his Oct. 16 Holy Day of Atonement address celebrating the 6th anniversary of the Million Man March.

“I would hope that President Bush would lead the country in atonement” and say to the world that “we’re going to change our policies that are unjust, unfair; we’re going to deal with the Middle East crisis with an even hand,” he said to more than 3,000 people at Christ Universal Temple, and thousands more nationwide via satellite and the Internet.

“If you do it, all this hatred will begin to diminish, dissipate, and go away; and the American people would not have to worry about bombs and bio-warfare. The American people don’t deserve that,” he said.

Min. Farrakhan noted that although some of the founding fathers of America were slave-owners, still they were God-fearing men and would not be pleased with the present deviation from the principles that made the country great.

He also warned that President Bush is not satisfied with a war on Afghanistan alone but is planning a wider war to include Iraq, Libya and Sudan. The U.S. government would like to link the Minister himself to terrorism because of his uncompromising voice, he said.

“I pray, President Bush, that you won’t pursue what you have in your mind because if you do, I’m going on record as saying this, you will end the United States as it is currently known,” Minister Farrakhan warned, adding that God’s judgment will visit the country.

Questioning the role of oil in the current events, the Minister stressed that President Bush has the responsibility to present the “overwhelming evidence” he claims to have to justify the war instead of hiding behind national security. Min. Farrakhan also questioned the President’s motive for repeatedly defining Islam as a religion of peace.

While in agreement with the president on the definition, the Minister said that President Bush is not qualified to represent Islam and Muslims should not allow Islam to be misrepresented to fit into a scheme to paint the religion as non-violent. Islam is not non-violent nor is Christianity, Minister Farrakhan said, pointing out that the principle of a just war exists in both religions.

The UN must define terrorism so governments can be judged by a correct standard, the Minister said. When the KKK burned down churches, it was not called terrorism, he added.

“We have to discern whether the governments of the world are repressive of the legitimate aspirations of their citizens. And if that is so and a person rises within that government to seek redress, to alter that government or replace that government, then are they terrorists or are they the liberators of their people from oppression?” he asked.

Fundamentalist Christians and Muslims only want their communities to return to the purity of the word of God, the Minister explained, and Islam is a theocracy.

“That’s what the kingdom of God represents,” he continued, a government under the rules and laws of God.

He defined a patriot as one who is willing to pay the price of speaking truth to power; to point out the wrong that may lead to the correction of a practice that is against a nation’s principles; and to uphold the principles that their flag represents, not just wave a flag.

Minister Farrakhan also called upon the religious community to accept their responsibility to call America’s leadership to repentance. “If ever there were a time that spiritual watchmen and women need to be awake, that time is now,” he said, adding, “their only fear should be what God will do if they do not deliver the message. It appears that the leadership in America today is spiritually blind and morally bankrupt.

“Must countless hundreds of thousands of innocent lives be lost and the cause of terror never be addressed?” said the Minister, humbly asking the President to find a better way to defeat terrorism.

This is why the Day of Atonement, practiced among the Hebrew faith as their holiest day, is a celebration that all of humanity needs to be a part of, he added.


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“I pray, President Bush, that you won’t pursue what you have in your mind because if you do, I’m going on record as saying this, you will end the United States as it is currently known,” Minister Farrakhan warned, adding that God’s judgment will visit the country.

Does "Minister" Farrakhan know something we don't know?

1 posted on 10/22/2001 1:00:00 PM PDT by Map Kernow
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To: Map Kernow
You know, I am not here to laud Farrakhan, and certainly dont agree wholesale with what he said ------ but there's a lot to be said for some real self-examination about this country's foreign policies since the end of the second world war
2 posted on 10/22/2001 1:03:30 PM PDT by thusevertotyrants
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To: Map Kernow
Websters definition of "atonement"

1: RECONCILIATION

2: the reconciliation of God and man through the sacrificial death of Jesus Christ

3: reparation for an offense or injury: SATISFACTION

4 Christian Science: the exemplifying of man's oneness with God

IMHO Farrakhan is spitting in the wind...

3 posted on 10/22/2001 1:04:11 PM PDT by goodnesswins
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To: Map Kernow
Louie lives at 49th and Woodlawn in Chicago. Look for the stretch limo and the Rolls parked in the driveway.
4 posted on 10/22/2001 1:04:54 PM PDT by Luigi Vaselini
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To: thusevertotyrants
Welcome, New Member since 10/22/01
5 posted on 10/22/2001 1:04:59 PM PDT by goodnesswins
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To: Map Kernow
>Does "Minister" Farrakhan know something we don't know?

LOL!

ROFL!

I’m going on record as saying "Minister" Farrakhan knows, umm, wheel barrels full of stuff we don't know. Whether any fraction of all that crap he "knows" has any connection to truth or reality as most of us know it is a whole 'nother question!

Mark W.

6 posted on 10/22/2001 1:05:50 PM PDT by MarkWar
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To: thusevertotyrants
there's a lot to be said for some real self-examination about this country's foreign policies since the end of the second world war

What would be the result of that self-examination? How would you have changed those policies?

7 posted on 10/22/2001 1:06:15 PM PDT by Map Kernow
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To: Map Kernow
Does anyone really care what Farrakhan says? :/
8 posted on 10/22/2001 1:06:27 PM PDT by Gimme
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To: Map Kernow
If I understand what this nutcase is saying, is that atonement requires sacrifice to the gods that need atonement, hence that means letting terrorist kill US civilians to satisfy their appetites instead of going to war against them. Truly repulsive.
9 posted on 10/22/2001 1:06:32 PM PDT by lavaroise
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To: Map Kernow
This statement comes darn close to looking like some Pat Robertson proclamation. But will his comments bring the same backlash?
10 posted on 10/22/2001 1:07:03 PM PDT by anniegetyourgun
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To: Map Kernow
gag...

Oh yeah, bow-tie boy is credible

he can kiss my catholic bottom

11 posted on 10/22/2001 1:07:28 PM PDT by WhiteGuy
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To: Map Kernow
Atonement = More mass murder of Americans and Allies.

Nutts!!

12 posted on 10/22/2001 1:08:08 PM PDT by oyez
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To: Map Kernow
The 16th? I wonder why he didn't wait for the 19th. I mean, didn't we learn from the man himself at the Million Man March how central the number 19 is to the concept of atonement?
13 posted on 10/22/2001 1:08:51 PM PDT by RichInOC
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To: Map Kernow
link to farrakhan

i am 'Shekwan'

14 posted on 10/22/2001 1:11:04 PM PDT by rockfish59
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To: Map Kernow
Does "Minister" Farrakhan know something we don't know?

To put it into terms you may understand, we neither have enough weapons or enough soldiers or enough money to impose our will on three quarters of the world, and if we attempt to do so rather than work with local people in different regions, we will implode just as the Soviet Union did after their Afghan experience.

15 posted on 10/22/2001 1:12:05 PM PDT by AGAviator
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To: MarkWar
Your point is valid, but what I was hinting at is Farrakhan's documented links with terror sponsors like Ghaddafi, including funding of Farrakhan's "Nation of Islam" organization. My suspicion is that Farrakhan and his cohorts may have intelligence about and may even be implicated in past or future terrorist attacks on the United States.
16 posted on 10/22/2001 1:12:36 PM PDT by Map Kernow
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To: thusevertotyrants
oooooh,america BAAAAADDD!!!

russia, china, GOOOOOODDD!!!

17 posted on 10/22/2001 1:13:32 PM PDT by rockfish59
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To: Map Kernow
", you will end the United States as it is currently known,” Minister Farrakhan warned, adding that God’s judgment will visit the country."

Does Mr. Farrakhan have plans to flee the country temporarily and return later to the set up a new Muslim government?

Deportation to the Afghanistan would be doing this traitorous bastard a favor. He's an American-hating Muslim who's being allowed to preach his venom. That's not free speech - it's national suicide.

19 posted on 10/22/2001 1:16:37 PM PDT by steenkeenbadges
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To: Map Kernow
“I pray, President Bush, that you won’t pursue what you have in your mind because if you do, I’m going on record as saying this, you will end the United States as it is currently known,” Minister Farrakhan warned, adding that God’s judgment will visit the country.

When the United States is finished doing what we have now been forced to do, and the wide-wide world of islam has been reduced to a smoldering heap, will Minister Farrakhan view this too as God’s judgment? Then will the Honorable Minister Louis Farrakhan call on the muslim world to atone for the sins perpetrated against innocent American citizens on 9/11/2001?

20 posted on 10/22/2001 1:20:40 PM PDT by TightSqueeze
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