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Info on Smallpox vaccine for freepers
Centers for Disease Control ^ | Bones

Posted on 10/21/2001 10:33:10 PM PDT by bonesmccoy

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To: bonesmccoy
Check out the company Acambia, ticker symbol ACAM.
141 posted on 10/22/2001 8:04:37 AM PDT by Freedom of Speech Wins
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To: bonesmccoy; FITZ
"You are neither a physician or a nurse. Please refrain from spreading disinformation regarding the vaccine."

Looks who's talking! You're the "doctor" of misinformation who went over the top insisting that there was no reason to begin antibiotic treatment for inhalation anthrax until after the symptoms appear!

Did you get your MD from Iatrogenic U?

142 posted on 10/22/2001 8:04:51 AM PDT by Don Joe
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To: bonesmccoy
The Company that owns and controls Wyeth is American Home Products. Go to this website for data on AHP. There are a lot of discussions on the status of their vaccine.

Thanks for joining us! Nice to have a front line MD on the forum. Too much BS scare and misinformation! My wife is the head RN in a large family practice in N. Ca.. I'm a retired "legal drug pusher".

From what I have read from your posts, if I lived in your community, you could be our doctor!

143 posted on 10/22/2001 8:08:06 AM PDT by Grampa Dave
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To: bonesmccoy
So what about SV-40?

--Boris

144 posted on 10/22/2001 8:08:37 AM PDT by boris
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To: bonesmccoy
My mother actually saved my childhood vaccination records and gave them to me last year. I just looked at them and they show that I was vaccinated at least twice - once in 1964 and then again in 1969. I do not have a scar anywhere. Is it possible they fixed the vaccine so that it didn't leave a scar? When I was growing up, I remember wondering why some of my friends had the scars but others didn't.
145 posted on 10/22/2001 8:08:54 AM PDT by Lorraine
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To: bonesmccoy
"The only thing that is believed to kill CJD slow virus is formaldehyde."

More BS from the "doctor".

CJD is not a "virus", it is a prion.

And as to his assertion that formaldehyde will kill them, please read from "Inquiry Whitewash and Hogwash":

"This is not the first time contaminated surgerical equipment has been implicated in the spread of CJD. In 1977, two teenagers in Switzerland developed the incurable disease after having undergone surgery for brain tumors. The electrodes that apparently transmitted CJD had been cleaned, disinfected and sterilized using benzene, alcohol and formaldehyde."

146 posted on 10/22/2001 8:10:59 AM PDT by Don Joe
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To: Don Joe
But he plays one on TV...
147 posted on 10/22/2001 8:11:05 AM PDT by piasa
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To: FITZ
"What disinformation? I refer to the CDC site directly. Besides my own immunology books and courses I took."

Don't let the "doctor" rattle you. His hobby seems to be to go around as an amateur agent provocateur.

148 posted on 10/22/2001 8:12:08 AM PDT by Don Joe
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To: Scuttlebutt
A "you got him pegged" bump.
149 posted on 10/22/2001 8:13:00 AM PDT by Don Joe
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To: Don Joe
Thanks for confirming the impression I was getting. I asked him a question on specifics. He went over the top with a personal slam and totally ignored the question. Again this morning on GMA a doctor who is an expert on public health and infectious diseases (no, not Snyderman) said the same thing I questioned Mr. McCoy about: We must weigh the risks of the vaccine (which include death) against the risks of an outbreak (still considered rare or unlikely).

My point was merely that we should get the vaccine in place so that we have options, but that we should be weighing those options before we act precipitously. Mr. McCoy didn't like me questioning his opinion, I guess. For someone who admits he's a "young" doctor, he sure seems to value his own experience above those who have had more experience and are in a position to be getting more data than he has access to. I find that a troublesome attitude for a physician.

150 posted on 10/22/2001 8:15:48 AM PDT by Exigence
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To: bonesmccoy
OK, so now we know that no only do you have a hard on for HMOs, but you also hate big pharmas. What next? A yearning for hillarycare?
151 posted on 10/22/2001 8:17:11 AM PDT by Don Joe
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To: bonesmccoy
"Yes, physicians have been directed to halt routine immunization of all children with tetanus boosters. I think it's stupid to NOT booster our kids. So, I disregarded that piece of advice from CDC and gave it to the few adolescents we have in our practice (3 doses). I had a bottle of vaccine we were keeping for rainy days...just call me Noah!"

Your post makes no sense at all. It implies that there isn't any vaccine available unless "Noah" decides to hoard some.

So, what happens when a kid steps on a rusty nail? Mom takes him in for a tetanus shot -- which would logically be available off the shelf for just such incidents.

The prosecution rests.

152 posted on 10/22/2001 8:20:27 AM PDT by Don Joe
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The small pox vaccine is only effective for 15 - 20 years after administration. So chances are, even if you were one of the last to recieve this immunization, you are very likely susceptible to the disease now.
153 posted on 10/22/2001 8:24:27 AM PDT by LilyB
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To: hd5574; bonesmccoy
Now not being a doctor I don't know but I have a strong feeling that the immunity may last quite a long time since the second ones never seemed to take. I am hoping that this mini-history may give you some clue as how long and strong the immunity may really be.

See my post#137. I have exactly the same feeling that you have. My last four vacccinations had no reaction at all, but I'll still go for another when they become available.

I am very worried for the unvaccinated young people of today, which includes our son. If an outbreak occurs in my area, the only defense I can think of (prior to exposure) is complete isolation of the family, which would mean staying at home with no contact with anyone or anything, until the Health Department calls everyone in for mass vaccinations.

Thank you bonesmccoy for posting this thread. The information you provided is invaluable and appreciated.

155 posted on 10/22/2001 8:27:01 AM PDT by RottiBiz
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To: GREY GHOSTt
They discovered is had a carcenigen in it thats why most 90% of the population that was vaccinated 1955 and back have cancer!

Cite:

156 posted on 10/22/2001 8:27:06 AM PDT by dbbeebs
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To: bonesmccoy
Ah, I knew we had a doctor in the house!

I don't have a smallpox vaccine scar. Was born in 1948, went to public school and my sister has one, so I know that I also had the vaccine. It is possible that the scar has completely faded, but since I scar easily and have many scars still visible from childhood - including one or two I got when I was just a toddler, I wonder if the smallpox scar would have completely faded. I also remember looking for my smallpox scar when I was in my early 20s because my roommate and I were comparing scars - I didn't have one.

A friend and I were talking about smallpox vaccines the other day, his is still visible as are all my other friends scars (I have asked them all). He suggested that the reason I don't have a scar is because I had a natural immunity and the vaccine "didn't take". Is that possible? And, if so, would I still have a natural immunity?

I can't imagine my sis being vaccinated and me not being vaccinated. My childhood doctor passed away 20 years ago so I can't contact him to find out.

157 posted on 10/22/2001 8:27:31 AM PDT by TexanaRED
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To: bonesmccoy
"There are doctors and health care professionals in this thread."

There are also idiots with a track record of handing out deadly medical advice, and then attempting to rationalize it with usubstantiated claims of a license to practice medicine.

"Your disinformation tactic is counterproductive."

Can't hold a candle to the disinfo you've pumped up our collective clymers, "doctor", so don't go feeling like your crown is threatened.

158 posted on 10/22/2001 8:27:44 AM PDT by Don Joe
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To: Exigence
"You missed the point of my question, avoided answering it, and used it to grandstand. How dare you suggest that I would want anything but the best for my family? How dare you!"

He's arrogant, that's why he does what he does. The first day he showed up on FR, he puked out a mile of BS about how it was stupid and paranoid to begin antibiotic treatment of inhalation anthrax before the symptoms appeared. If he was a real doctor, he should have known -- as virtually everyone else knows -- that if you wait until symptoms appear, you have effectively sentenced yourself to death.

I haven't quite figured the guy out, but I do think it boils down to a question of either knowledge, or motives.

159 posted on 10/22/2001 8:30:53 AM PDT by Don Joe
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To: rainingred
"I can't find anywhere in this thread where he said he was a Medical Doctor. Although bonesmccoy has certainly implied it."

His first day on FR, he said that he was a doctor, and insisted that people should therefore listen to him when he said that it was folly to begin antibiotic treatment of inhalation anthrax prior to the appearance of symptoms.

If he's a doctor, then I have to wonder if his last name begins with "Kevork".

160 posted on 10/22/2001 8:33:56 AM PDT by Don Joe
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