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RUSSIA AND CHINA CALL FOR SWITCHING FROM MILITARY OPERATION TO A POLITICAL SETTLEMENT IN AFGHANISTAN
Inside Russia Today (www.europeaninternet.com/russia) ^ | October 20, 2001 | Russian INformation Agency - Novosti

Posted on 10/20/2001 6:59:27 AM PDT by Old Lady

LEADERS OF RUSSIA AND CHINA CALL FOR SWITCHING FROM MILITARY OPERATION TO A POLITICAL SETTLEMENT IN AFGHANISTAN

SHANGHAI (China), October 20, 2001. /RIA Novosti special correspondent/--The leaders of Russia and China have called for going over as soon as possible from the military operation to a political settlement in Afghanistan under the aegis of the United Nations. This was said by Russian presidential press secretary Alexei Gromov who summed up the meeting of Vladimir Putin and Chairman of the PRC Jiang Zemin which took place in Shanghai on October 20.

The leaders of Russia and China opined that "representatives of all basic ethnic groups, who will show readiness to cooperate in the restoration of a peaceful life, should come to power in Kabul." Vladimir Putin and Jiang Zemin devoted a considerable part of their conversation to the fight against terrorism. They believe the international community should actively and solidarily combat this evil, said Alexei Gromov.

The leaders of Russia and China also discussed strategic stability issues and said they would coordinate their actions.

Vladimir Putin and Jiang Zemin highly rated "the rising level of trust in bilateral relations as a whole and also between the leaders of the two countries." They pointed out the existence of "a real strategic partnership on a firm basis" between Russia and China.

The leaders of the two countries noted that in the past year or a year and a half a break-through had taken place in bilateral economic relations. According to Alexei Gromov, at their meeting Vladimir Putin and Jiang Zemin spoke about the programmes in the power industry, transport and other spheres currently being worked out between Russia and China.


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The title of the article was abbreviated so it would fit in the space provided -- the full title is LEADERS OF RUSSIA AND CHINA CALL FOR SWITCHING FROM MILITARY OPERATION TO A POLITICAL SETTLEMENT IN AFGHANISTAN.
1 posted on 10/20/2001 6:59:27 AM PDT by Old Lady
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To: Old Lady
If the terrorists had hit Moscow this opinion would be different.
2 posted on 10/20/2001 7:05:07 AM PDT by Vinomori
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To: Vinomori
We should have let Patton & Mac Arthur finish the job while they were there with the manpower and artillery. Diplomacy is never a long term solution. c*c
3 posted on 10/20/2001 7:21:13 AM PDT by chit*chat
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To: chit*chat
Ditto, post 3.

I suspect Russia doesn't want the war to expand to Iraq since they have investments there.

4 posted on 10/20/2001 7:23:13 AM PDT by Old Lady
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To: Vinomori
Chechyns???
5 posted on 10/20/2001 7:35:40 AM PDT by EdisonOne
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To: Old Lady
The link to the souce doesn't work. The report is written in a way that suggests it wasn't written by professional journalists and in fact no context whatsoever is given to the remarks by Putin and Zemin.

The report reads more like agit-prop than legitimate reporting.

6 posted on 10/20/2001 7:42:50 AM PDT by beckett
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First we'll take care of the party that has declared war on us. Then, when each and every one of the Taliban is dead, we'll talk political.
7 posted on 10/20/2001 7:44:00 AM PDT by steveegg
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To: Old Lady
Well, we all agree on that, and that's exactly what we'll do just as soon as we get Ben Laden and every slimy terrorist on the face of the earth.
8 posted on 10/20/2001 7:49:14 AM PDT by McGavin999
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To: Old Lady
Both Russia and China want the Taliban obliterated and the Northern Alliance installed in Kabul. India and Iran are of the same opinion.

Due to pressure from Saudi Arabia and Pakistan, the United States is likely to wimp out and begin negotiations that leave the Taliban in power.

9 posted on 10/20/2001 7:55:28 AM PDT by Lessismore
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To: Lessismore
The nothern alliance are basically descendents of the Mongol tribes and have about as much right to run Afghanistan as a minority have running the USA. How would you feel if a foreign country asked you to cede power to say, Mexican-Americans to the exclusion of all other ethnic factions. Mongol warriors like Dostrum are not going to succeed unless they wipe out all Paki ethnic groups. Which is why the US is not taking sides. The US is trying to kill Arab, Sudanese, Indonesian, Egyptian, Algerian and a host of other foreign terrorists who have attached themselves to a weakened host like a parasite.

This political clap trap is a smokescreen and a complete sidestepping of the issue. I agree with whoever said this was agi-prop. Look, we aren't there to build a nation. We are there to destroy an enemy. Russia and China can kiss off. This is none of their business.

10 posted on 10/20/2001 8:52:36 AM PDT by kingh99
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To: Lessismore
China and Russia are definitely gunning for the US of A. They are more than happy to finance and support our enemies. I trust them not a whit.
11 posted on 10/20/2001 8:55:02 AM PDT by kingh99
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To: kingh99
The nothern alliance are basically descendents of the Mongol tribes

The second largest ethnic group is Tadjik, who are Persian-speaking and not Mongols. They have probably lived in Northern Afghanistan as long as the Pashtuns have lived in the south. The Uzbeks (third) are Turkic. The Hazara may be Mongol, but that is uncertain -- they may also be Turkic.

and have about as much right to run Afghanistan as a minority have running the USA.

The Pashtuns are less than 40% of the population, so the Taliban is from a minority ethnic group. Plus, as you point out, they are heavily backed by the "Arabs" from various other countries, who are definitely foreigners.

Russia and China can kiss off. This is none of their business.

Since Afghanistan is in their part of the world, and since the Taliban and AlQueda has been exporting Islamic fundamentalism to their countries, it actually is their business. Plus, it's India's business, given the infiltration of Paki terrorists into Kashmir and other parts of India, and it's Iran's business, given the antipathy of the Taliban and Al Queda towards Shiite muslims.

12 posted on 10/20/2001 9:45:15 AM PDT by Lessismore
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To: kingh99
China and Russia are definitely gunning for the US of A.

Might I respectfully disagree? I'd say that a political settlement within Afghanistan would be fully acceptable to President Bush -- after bin Laden and his terrorists are turned over to the US.

13 posted on 10/20/2001 12:14:44 PM PDT by thinktwice
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To: Old Lady
The truth's staring us right in the face.
14 posted on 10/20/2001 12:30:03 PM PDT by Askel5
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To: Vinomori; EdisonOne
If the terrorists had hit Moscow this opinion would be different.

Chechnya not only makes for a great training ground for Russia's massive military build-up in Mozdok, it's been a most suitable means for "long-range thinking" strategists to lay a foundation for Russia's being not only against terrorist but, in particularly, Muslim fundies.

This despite the "former Soviet Union's" (and China's) clear and incontrovertible sponsorship, training and encouraging of terrorist cells worldwide for nearly a century.

Pretty cool, actually.

15 posted on 10/20/2001 12:33:14 PM PDT by Askel5
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16 posted on 10/20/2001 12:42:06 PM PDT by ThanksBTTT
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To: kingh99
newbee - you are getting there, but keep on thinking.

"The nothern alliance are basically descendents of the Mongol tribes and have about as much right to run Afghanistan as a minority have running the USA. How would you feel if a foreign country asked you to cede power to say, Mexican-Americans to the exclusion of all other ethnic factions. "

Should be - which do you want to run the place, the Mongols, who over ran Afghanistan first, or the Muslims who over ran Afghanistan a bit later?

And your comparison should be, which do you want running Texas, the Indians, who lived here first, or the Mexicans who over ran the Indians, or the Texicans who over ran the Mexicans, and joined the Americans?

17 posted on 10/20/2001 2:06:24 PM PDT by XBob
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To: Askel5
Only in despite of the "former Soviet Union's" (and China's) clear and incontrovertible sponsorship? You mean those two SOBs are the only one's? Now, that really clears up the screen doesn't it?
18 posted on 10/20/2001 7:57:10 PM PDT by EdisonOne
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