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IRA plotted with Nazis to invade Northern Ireland
Electronic Telegraph ^ | 19 October 2001 | http://portal.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml;$sessionid$VK2N3UIAADY21QFIQMFCFFWAVCBQYIV0?xml=/news/

Posted on 10/19/2001 6:49:23 AM PDT by aculeus

A PLOT by the IRA to link up with the Nazis to invade Northern Ireland during the Second World War was disclosed in secret service files published by the Public Record Office yesterday.

According to the MI5 records, Germany parachuted a spy into Southern Ireland in 1940 to assess the feasibility of the plan after being approached by the terrorist group.

But the plan was foiled after the spy, Dr Hermann Goertz, aka Heinz Kruse, or just "K", was arrested a year later by the Irish government.

The memorandum, written in 1943, read: "On the 5th May 1940 Goertz landed by parachute at Ballivor, Co Meath, Eire. Earlier that year the IRA had been in touch with the German SS through the intermediary of Stephen Carroll Held.

"Held had visited Berlin with a proposal from the IRA for an attack on Northern Ireland by the Germans to be supported by 5,000 IRA recruited in Eire and Northern Ireland.

"Goertz's mission was to examine this proposal and to obtain. . . the military information on which the joint attack by the Germans and the IRA on Northern Ireland could be based."

The report says that he met Stephen Hayes, then leader of the IRA in Dublin, but the meeting was raided. While money, a radio transmitter and a German airman's cap were seized, along with the manuscript of the plan, codenamed Kathleen, Goertz escaped.

For the next year Goertz, who had been arrested as a spy and deported before the war, lived in a number of IRA safe houses. During that period he was approached by a member of the Irish Army, Maj Gen McNeill, a fascist, the files say.

It is believed he was hoping to resurrect some kind of Fascist "Blueshirt" organisation with the help of the Germans. At first, British intelligence believed that McNeill's involvement meant that the Irish Government was collaborating, but its investigation showed he was acting independently.

The operation and McNeill's attempt to link up with the Nazis came to nothing when Goertz was arrested in November 1941.

9 May 2001: Scots 'tried to set up Nazi alliance'


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Germany; News/Current Events; United Kingdom
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To: michaelt
Ireland was neutral in WW II, wasn't it? They didn't send troops to fight Hitler, did they?
41 posted on 10/19/2001 3:36:41 PM PDT by laureldrive
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To: aculeus
This should have been posted as breaking news. (/sarcasm)

However, if Lord Britain treated Ireland like they treated Canada, there would never have been an IRA.

42 posted on 10/19/2001 3:47:13 PM PDT by ex-snook
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To: HEFFERNAN2
"..Irish starved to death..."

Do you by chance refer to the potato famine?

43 posted on 10/19/2001 3:56:56 PM PDT by Churchillspirit
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To: HEFFERNAN2
Don't waste your time sending me email. My relatives in Sligo are all dead thanks to the Brits.

Huh? What email?

44 posted on 10/19/2001 3:58:31 PM PDT by aculeus
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To: Cicero
But they have a better record of avoiding the killing of innocent civilians than their Protestant counterparts do.

The loyalists didn't often go for economic, military or government targets.

Republicans have killed a lot more people than loyalists though loyalists were killing as many as republicans in the run up to the ceasefires of 1998.

45 posted on 10/19/2001 5:31:43 PM PDT by Norn Iron
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To: HEFFERNAN2
Catholics are alive in NI because of the protection of the IRA and Catholics are also dead because the IRA killed them. The IRA probably killed over 2000 of the 3600 who have perished.
46 posted on 10/19/2001 5:42:29 PM PDT by Norn Iron
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To: HEFFERNAN2
You seem to have overlooked the links between the Vatican and Nazism to combat Communism. The Jesuits as you might expect played a key role but that will hardly come as a great surprise.
47 posted on 10/19/2001 5:46:55 PM PDT by Norn Iron
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To: HEFFERNAN2
Why do you terrorist apologists hide behind Irish Catholic skirts? You're a lot of 'old women'.
48 posted on 10/19/2001 5:51:05 PM PDT by Norn Iron
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To: HEFFERNAN2
Save time. Read Irish history and do both!
49 posted on 10/19/2001 5:52:39 PM PDT by Norn Iron
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To: HEFFERNAN2
I thought the Irish spent much of the time fighting each other in the dim and distant - or maybe not so distant - past. The English, the Scots - and the Pope - joined in from time to time.
50 posted on 10/19/2001 5:58:02 PM PDT by Norn Iron
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To: Cicero
Bullbleep. You need to wake up. The IRA is not an army, it is a bunch of cowardly murderous thugs who hide from the light and who target civilians. They linked arms with the Nazis in WWII, but they'll never have the guts to admit it.

Who were Clinton's two favorite (male) guests at the White House? Yassah Arafat and Gerry bin Adams. No,really?! Yes, really.

Have you seen a declaration of strong support for the U.S. from this crowd yet (or from Eire for that matter). No you haven't and don't hold your breath. In fact if you turn over some of the slimier rocks you'll find the IRA has been playing kiss and giggle with the al Qaeda boyos for a long time.

The IRA is to Northern Ireland what Hamas/Hezbollah are to Israel. Same phony causes, same methods. Same pious proclamations of injustice, same hate. Put 'em in nightshirts and headbands and you'd never know the difference.

51 posted on 10/19/2001 6:22:38 PM PDT by Guillam
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To: aculeus
The World War II alliance between the Nazis and the IRA has been known about for years. As Lockjaw would say, "Nothing new here!"
52 posted on 10/19/2001 6:27:10 PM PDT by Clinton's a rapist
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To: constitutiongirl
I take a more general approach. Bombs killing babies is bad, regardless of whom.
53 posted on 10/20/2001 8:55:19 AM PDT by gridlock
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