Posted on 10/19/2001 5:00:53 AM PDT by Jeff F
It is a matter of public record that the bin Laden family has vociferously disavowed their wayward 17th child. And who could blame them?
No mere wanton wastrel, the worlds most wanted man has brought great shame upon this wealthy family. Even worse than shame, though, Osamas actions have endangered the clans coffers.
So it is not surprising that the bin Ladens have cut ties to "the evildoer," as George Dubya likes to refer to him.
Or did they?
A web domain registered to the Saudi Binladin Group (the megabucks corporation uses the alternate spelling of the family name) raises questions about what role, if any, the family has played in the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks.
The domain was registered on Sept. 11, 2000, with a preset expiration date of Sept. 11, 2001, according to a technician with VeriSign, an Internet domain registry service formerly known as Network Solutions.
Coincidence?
Or was this website set up to start the countdown on the most devastating attack in U.S. history?
Like a lot of information that has been pouring in to me since shortly before 9 a.m. Sept. 11, the tidbit about www.saudi-binladin-group.com was amazingly tantalizing.
Unlike a lot of the tidbits, however, this morsel, delivered last week by an anonymous source I will refer to as Deep Spore, has a paper trail attached to it.
The paper trail began with a web search of the Binladin Group that revealed the aforementioned website. A check of that site showed that it no longer existed. A quick "whois" check on VeriSigns website which lists who set up a particular site and when showed that, unlike Binladin-related sites that were taken down right after the attacks on New York and Washington, saudi-binladin-group.com expired on the day of the attacks.
This was no accident, according to a VeriSign technician in Mountainview, Calif.
"This was timed so it would expire on that date," says the technician, who identified herself only by her first name, Antonette, and by her employee number, 001. Antonette also verified that the information listed in the whois search was accurate and not tampered with by an outside party. Antonette added that VeriSign had already been contacted by law enforcement about other attack-related domain names the company had registered.
"I had a call from the L.A. police," she said. "He was also asking about a domain name that expired on Sept. 11. I cant remember the name of it, but it had something to do with the WTC."
The Binladin website was created by a company called Arq Limited, a U.K. web design firm. The administrative, technical and billing contact listed on the whois search is a man named Philip Lumsden.
After several calls to the U.K., I learned that Arq Limited went out of business, replaced by a company called Active 8 Solutions, which shares the same Bath, England, mailing address and a telephone number that is only one digit off from Arq Limiteds old number.
I learned one more interesting thing.
"Mr. Lumsden left a week ago," said a man who answered the phone at Active 8 Solutions. "I am not aware of why he left."
The man, who would not give his name, added that he had "no clue" about the saudi-binladin-group.com website.
A half-dozen odd calls Tuesday, October 15, to the Saudi Binladin Groups headquarters in Jedda, Saudi Arabia, turned up little other than assurances that if I called back in 20 minutes or a half-hour, then somebody would be able to give me some information about the website.
Each time I called, I explained that I wanted to ask somebody at the company why the website expired on Sept. 11, 2001, a rather significant date in world history. Each time I was told to call back until, finally, I spoke with someone who could answer my questions.
But not for long.
"You can check with VeriSign," said a man who did not identify himself. "VeriSign has all the details."
The man then asked me to hold on because he had to take another call. Then I was disconnected. I called back, only to be disconnected again. When I called back a third time, another man answering the phone asked if I could send an e-mail listing my questions.
"It is already after 6 p.m. here," said the man. "Nobody is in anymore."
The next day, I called again and again was told to call back later. By deadline, neither of the two emails I sent seeking comment were answered.
If the attackers did use this website, the FBI, which is tracking down thousands and thousands of leads, may be interested.
"I am not aware of [the website], and I do not know whether the FBI is aware of it, but I cant speak for the entire FBI," said Joe Valiquette, spokesman for the FBIs New York office. "Generally speaking, we would be interested in something like that."
Saudi Binladin Group, Prince Abdullah St., Al Rawdah District, P.O.B. 8918, Jeddah 21492, Saudi Arabia.
Tel: 966-2-664 3033 Fax: 966-2-664 3221/3225 Telex: 607439 SBG
The evil one is supposedly angry at the US above all for having our troops in Saudi Arabia. However it was the Binladin construction company which build the base. To my knowledge, he has never threatened much less acted against any of his family for this massive offense. We know that he is funded primarily by rich Saudi's. I smell a rat.
In any case, after a thorough search everything I found looks quite innocuous.
That said, they could have done enough research to predict that a certain day had the most probability of having the conditions required. IMHO
This is definitely strange. It's not just that the renewal date for the domain name was Sept. 11, which is strange enough, but what makes it even stranger is the fact that the company let the domain name expire rather than renew it.
As you said, the web site www.saudi-binladin-group.com is still cached in google. This web site contained nearly 100 pages, and, based on the cached content, it appears to have been the official web site of the Binladin Group. A web search shows no other web site for this company. (If anybody knows of another domain name for the company, please post it.)
The domain name www.saudi-binladin-group.com still has a DNS entry, presumably under Verisign's grace period for expired domain names, but there are no longer any web pages at the site. (Try it out, you'll get an Error 404 Not Found message.)
It's hard to know what to make of all this except that it's strange. Maybe a financial reporter would be able to find out if the Binladin Group can explain why it doesn't need a web site any more?
It seems far-fetched, but did the Binladin Group think that the Internet would no longer be active after Sept. 11, because of the devastating planned attacks (most of which perhaps were prevented because of the quick thinking in grounding all airplanes on that day and because of the failure of one hijacked plane to hit its intended target)?
Why have they still not renewed the domain name and restored the web site, even at this late date, more than a month later? (That's what any business would normally do if they simply forgot to renew their domain name on time.)
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