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To: super175
Don't know if I'm as optimistic about a Chinese republic. When 90% of the population is Han, there need to be some pretty strong checks and balances to insure that place like Tibet and Xinjiang don't just end up like they are now. It's depressing that even well educated, liberal Chinese still tow thw party line about the 'indivisibilty of the motehrland,' yada yada yada. Even if the average Chinese person gets more say, Tibet is still screwed, I think. As unlikely as it is, independance, not Sun's vision, is what Tibet needs.
7 posted on 10/18/2001 10:27:35 PM PDT by FreepTibet
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To: FreepTibet
A lot of people make that statement about "90% being Han".

How much have you travelled around China?

There are more than 1,000 languages in China.

IMO "Han" is about like saying "white". Germans are white and so are the British, but they are not 100% the same.

In China there are traditionally many tribal/village cultures all unique from each other. Then you have the Tibet thing, and the XinJiang thing...

Chinese feudalism (and CCP one party control) is no different than colonization.

PS, I posted an article on here (somewhere) where the Dalai Lama himself said "true Chinese culture exists on Taiwan" and that he would accept local autonomy for Tibetans under a 'republic' style system.

I cannot say if he truly wants independence, as in total 100% independence or just the freedom to control their own destiny and practice their religion as they see fit.

8 posted on 10/18/2001 10:38:00 PM PDT by super175
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To: FreepTibet
That whole "one-China" thing (the CCP version) basically equates to "one party rule, and you better not challenge that".

To even entertain the idea of all Chinese people being the same is sheer ignorance.

The CCP knows people do not believe like they do, that is why they try to brainwash so many people, and silence dissenting voices.

9 posted on 10/18/2001 10:40:57 PM PDT by super175
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To: FreepTibet
"Han" is about like saying "American Indian".

There are how many different tribes? Cherokee, Blackfoot, Ute...there are hundreds and all are different.

In China some even had their own writing. There is a program that comes on TV every now and then about 'nu-shu' writing. It is a totally different form of Chinese writing.

It was barely preserved because the cultural revolution burned everything they could find written in that language.

Also don't forget, those 'jian-ti' characters were created by the Communists.

The CCP went on a tirade to destroy all minority cultures. To them there was going to be 'one-China' and that meant everything. During the Cultural Revolution they destroyed so much of the various Chinese heritages.

For many years "Chinese/China" were used as synonyms for "Communism". If you did not believe in Communism then you were not "Chinese".

10 posted on 10/18/2001 10:49:02 PM PDT by super175
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To: FreepTibet
Even if the average Chinese person gets more say, Tibet is still screwed, I think. As unlikely as it is, independance, not Sun's vision, is what Tibet needs.

First of all, I don't believe Chinese are 90% Hans. Whenever race is brought up people with mixed races are screwed and in China that is a tremendous number.

Do you see Hawaii and Alaska got screwed? If not then Tibet and XinJiang will not be screwed. Let's replace CCP with a real republic goverment and discuss Tibet's independence later.

25 posted on 10/19/2001 7:49:11 AM PDT by color_tear
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