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To: Black Jade
>>He also received some education from the Russians, and the structure of the KMT loosely followed the Leninist model of a party dictatorship.

Right. The KMT was founded as a "revolutionary" party with the help of Russian advisors. Sun asked all members to sign a "loyalty" letter to himself. Huang Xing, second to Sun in the anti-Qing revolution and leader of anti-Qing uprising, opposed Sun's style of dictorship and left the KMT. Huang Xing was influenced by American-style democracy and wanted a true republic. He died in the US. When soldiers were fighting Qing's army to overthrow the dynasty, Sun was in Hawaii.

>>That's why you can see parallel structures even in the CCP & KMT today.

Actually the CCP used to be the left-wing faction in the KMT and was split from it in 1927.

>>Sun's life may seem paradoxical, but none of these various elements can be ignored in order to remain true to the historical record.

Sun is now a symbolic figure respected by both CCP and KMT. People don't know what Sun really was. There have been different versions of Sun, depending on what you want.

46 posted on 10/20/2001 6:12:52 PM PDT by Lake
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To: Lake
Have you read the book "OSS in China" by Maochun Yu?

Most of the records on what went on in China are still sealed to this day. However, this guy (a Mainland Chinese who teaches history in a US military academy) researched out a lot of what happened.

The conclusion I drew (and I have not finished yet), was that the left hand did not know what the right hand was doing.

One part of the OSS helped Mao, one part helped Chiang, and on and on...

America was not neutral at all. However if you are looking strictly at "Americans" they had a 'policy' of supporting everyone just about, at one point or another.

They were either supporting when they should not, or not supporting when they should.

51 posted on 10/20/2001 8:58:00 PM PDT by super175
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To: Lake; Black Jade
Can either of you explain the origins of Marxism? Where it came from and out of which circumstances?
53 posted on 10/20/2001 9:34:59 PM PDT by super175
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To: Lake
Marxists think 'capitalist' own the 'means of production' and hence are with-holding those means from the working class men. Hence under 'capitalism' (a word which commies invented), working class men cannot escape their situation. The only solution (to them) was revolution and communism.

What about the American Dream?

66 posted on 10/20/2001 10:36:43 PM PDT by super175
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