Posted on 10/18/2001 2:22:42 PM PDT by FormerLib
It speaks clearly to the issue of Homosexuality..Thanks
The article is about feeling "...politically isolated on the Tufts campus and abandoned even by other Christian groups..."
Throughout the New Testament, Jesus makes clear that "this world" is not our home. That the people "of" this world didn't recognize nor welcome Jesus, and the same type of people wouldn't recognize nor welcome future Christians.
Was Jesus politically embraced in His culture? Was Jesus embraced by other Jewish groups in his time?
The issue of how Christians don't "fit" with this temporal world is a very sweeping and generalized theme of the New Testament. It doesn't depend on which dictionary definition of a particular word you choose to point at. It's the concept that's important and the concept couldn't be more clear.
I wasn't saying I didn't understand what the article was saying. I was just making the point that from my point of view these people have their heads up their ass if they think ANY Christian can look around THIS world and NOT feel isolated and abandoned.
Mark W.
No but Jesus did not live in the United States, where our freedom of speech and religion are recognized, nor was he speaking at a University, where diversity and open debate are supposed to be fostered. Surely you aren't suggesting that American Christians must absorb every insult without the right to speak out against it?
Thanks for the flag.Can you guess where I posted it?Oh, I think I can guess who might have benefitted from your cross-posting of this little item, all right.
Heck no. I think people should speak out against whatever they feel the need to speak out against. Joni Mitchell has a couplet that goes, "If you're feeling content, well then you tell it/If you're tired of the silent night, Jesus, then you yell it!"
I was just voicing my view that academia is so obviously a corrupt environment that a person has to be foolish to think there's a place there for real Christianity (well, there's certainly a place there for witnessing, but why should any Christian care about whether or not they're "officially" recognized by an authority that is obviously corrupt? Or, for that matter, by any authority at all other than the Holy Spirit?)
Mark W.
Well I got called a Calvinist..and one of the two topic threads was deleted.. (one on the potter and the clay)the other is more polite and with a Pastor type..
But wasn't it the vision of the Founding Fathers that righteous men didn't need to be subservient to a corrupt earthly authority? The author isn't writing (in this small instance) to those of us who know academica is corrupt! He's writing to show further examples of the truth to everyone else.
Yep. Sadly, we're about 225 years down stream from them, and I suspect it may have been expecting too much from this temporal reality anyway.
Mark W.
Well I got called a Calvinist..and one of the two topic threads was deleted.. (one on the potter and the clay)the other is more polite and with a Pastor type..Well, I'm sure it would be easy to find a few FReepers we both know who could come over to that other forum and reassure them that you can't possibly be a Calvinist!
Homosexuality is at its heart the practice of sex worship What a thought-provoking and important statement!
My father worked his entire life for the Boy Scouts of America. He retired a few years ago from the St Louis area Council. I often wonder how much it really saddens him to see what is happening to the BSA these days. As a child I witnessed his prayers and struggles prior to needing to remove scoutmasters for sexual issues - though I was never told at the time exactly what the issues were. And I have not asked since....but perhaps I will sometime soon!
Anyway, what an interesting article. My school is a nominally Catholic school, but the Christian group, mostly Protestant, is the best-attened club on campus. Let's put it this way... there were twelve people who signed up for our group at the fall club fair, and two who signed up for the gay-straight alliance.
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