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To: Publius6961
In the real world (not academia or metaphysics) people have only those rights that they are able and willing to assert and hence enjoy. All else is sophistry.

Lets follow your premise to its logical.

Sample case: by means of force, coersion, or otherwise, you are detained and forced to conduct hard labor. Your property is simply taken from you. You are brutally beaten if you speak, or pray, or on the whim of your guards. The party enslaving you has more than enough guards and money to keep you in this state perpetually unless an outside force intervenes.

The result of this situation is that you are unable to assert and hence enjoy any right to freedom: to be free from detention without accusation of a crime, to be secure in your person, house, paper, and effect, etc.

Therefore, by your definition of rights, even though this entire scenario occurs within the US, you have no rights.

ergo, your definition of rights is false.

132 posted on 10/18/2001 3:53:39 PM PDT by Razz
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To: Razz
ergo, your definition of rights is false.

Au contraire mon frere. There is no denying reality.
Substitute "clothes" for "rights" and you can see how silly your conclusion seems...

If you can't sense, touch, enjoy and embrace them, you don't have them.

188 posted on 10/21/2001 9:09:52 AM PDT by Publius6961
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