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Berkeley narrowly passes anti-war measure
United States Dot Com via DRUDGE REPORT ^ | BERKELEY, Calif., Oct. 17 (UPI) | Reported by Hil Anderson, Fremont, Calif

Posted on 10/17/2001 6:21:36 PM PDT by vannrox

Berkeley narrowly passes anti-war measure

BERKELEY, Calif., Oct. 17 (UPI) -- The left-wing bastion of Berkeley, Calif., narrowly voted Tuesday night to condemn U.S. military action in Afghanistan and not before the addition of an amendment denouncing the terrorist "mass murder" of thousands of Americans on Sept. 11.

The resolution, which passed on a 5-4 vote, was believed to be the first official statement by a U.S. city critical of the U.S. military response to the destruction of the World Trade Center and the damage to the Pentagon.

Although public opinion polls show the American public in favor of the military response by an unprecedented margin, former city council member Ying Lee Kelley urged the panel to "continue to honor Berkeley's tradition of opposition to brute force to solve profoundly difficult social problems."

Berkeley, home of the University of California at Berkeley campus, was the birthplace of the free speech movement in the 1960s with Mario Salvo and has been a hotbed of peace protests since the Vietnam War.

The San Francisco Chronicle said a recent poll of Berkeley students showed 65 percent were opposed to the U.S.-led bombing of Afghanistan.

While the Chronicle Wednesday described the council's makeup as split between leftist and centrists, there were a number of residents at Tuesday's meeting urging the resolution be defeated.

"War does solve something," said Kelso Barnett, the head of a conservative student group at the university. "Ask the people of Europe who were liberated after World War II."

The council passed the measure, however not before changing the wording to call for the bombing to end "as quickly as possible" rather than immediately.

At an Afghan restaurant in the "Little Kabul" district of nearby Fremont, home to the largest U.S. population of Afghan people, a couple who appeared to be in their 70s and had attended Berkeley, told United Press International that they had organized a group of 10-20 -- similar to the much larger group of 300 or so anti-war types in nearby Palo Alto -- that hold daily protests against the bombings and were gaining support from passersby.

"We get a lot of car horns honking and only an occasional call of 'traitor,'" said the woman, who declined to give her name, noting that the reception was encouraging given Fremont's overall conservative attitudes. "Smart bombs are not smart," she said, echoing the sentiment on the sign she holds up for Fremont traffic.


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To: vannrox
Cali The land of fruits, nuts and flakes. If it was a foreign country we would attack it. When it cracks off into the ocean will anyone care?
21 posted on 10/17/2001 7:41:46 PM PDT by Newbomb Turk
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To: Paul Atreides
And don't forget all those mine fields that need to be cleared!
22 posted on 10/17/2001 7:45:07 PM PDT by Liberty Ship
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To: vannrox
The left-wing bastion of Berkeley, Calif.

Rush called their condemnation of the U.S. anti-terrorist war an INTELLECTUAL MASTURBATION.

Was Chelsebeast a student at Berkeley?

23 posted on 10/17/2001 10:06:50 PM PDT by truther
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To: vannrox
I heard they voted Berzerkley a terrorist-free zone. Also an anthrax-free zone. Brave folks, neh?
24 posted on 10/17/2001 10:11:11 PM PDT by SF Geo
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To: vannrox
"Although public opinion polls show the American public in favor of the military response by an unprecedented margin, former city council member Ying Lee Kelley urged the panel to "continue to honor Berkeley's tradition of opposition to brute force to solve profoundly difficult social problems" Forgive me Councilman Kelley, But a majority of Americans dont believe retalitation for the cold blooded murder of American citizens on American soil, and the effort to root out those guilty of same and destroy them to prevent this happening again is brute force. Maybe you should look into the faces of fatherless and motherless children in NYC and Va. and speak to the husbands, wives, and mothers and fathers of those lost and assure them that peace and compassion and inaction guarantees their safety. See what kind of response you recieve.
25 posted on 10/17/2001 10:14:00 PM PDT by All-American Medic
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To: vannrox
You forgot to add to the headline...

"...Not That Anyone Gives A S**t What Berkely Thinks."

Please try to be more accurate and thorough in the future.

Thank you.

26 posted on 10/17/2001 10:19:16 PM PDT by daler
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To: vannrox
I've been to Cal-Berkeley and wasn't too impressed. They accept a lot more students than one could imagine. I've seem some very marginal students accepted. They've been falling fast for years. I wouldn't give this school a passing grade.
27 posted on 10/17/2001 10:22:26 PM PDT by boycott
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To: vannrox

28 posted on 10/17/2001 10:22:57 PM PDT by oldvike
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To: vannrox
I'm surprised it wasn't 9-0. They are just a joke; need to get out of that time warp. What would the comrades have done if the attack had happened in Berkeley? Called a hippie?

Just once, I want to hear what their response is to combatting terrorism; all I hear is "peace and love, man" but no solutions. How many times do you need to get punched in the nose before you fight back? You almost have to feel sorry for them, not quite, but almost. They are really pitiful.

29 posted on 10/17/2001 10:29:46 PM PDT by pjb819
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To: pjb819
Berkeley: The Taliban Republic of the Loony Left.
30 posted on 10/17/2001 10:45:10 PM PDT by goldstategop
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...smart bombs are not smart.

But they're smarter than you, AND they have better slogans.

31 posted on 10/17/2001 11:31:21 PM PDT by keri
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To: vannrox
What to do if you happen upon a peace rally by naïve college students, to teach them why force is sometimes necessary:

1.) Approach student talking about "peace" and saying there should be "no retaliation."

2.) Engage in brief conversation; ask if military force is appropriate.

3.) When he says "No," ask, "Why not?"

4.) Wait until he says something to the effect of, "Because that would just cause more innocent deaths, which would be awful and we should not cause more violence."

5.) When he's in mid-sentence, punch him in the face.

6.) When he gets back up to punch you, point out that it would be a mistake and contrary to his values to strike you, because that would "be awful and he should not cause more violence."

7.) Wait until he agrees that he has pledged not to commit additional violence.

8.) Punch him in the face again.

9.) Repeat steps 5 through 8 until he understands that sometimes it's necessary to punch back.

32 posted on 10/18/2001 6:00:28 AM PDT by surfer
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To: pjb819
It's easy to be against war when it is someone else being attacked. All of the recent attacks have happened on the east coast, far far away from Berkley. From their point of view, war only increases the chance it will spread to Bearkley. It just shows they are thinking more about themselves then the coutnry as a whole.

How would they have voted if the planes had hit buildings in San Francisco, and the antrhax scares were up and down the west coast? Would they be saying don't do anything to stop this, or would reality finally have hit home.

33 posted on 10/18/2001 6:30:31 AM PDT by Brookhaven
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To: surfer
Ok, surfer. You win. I've been a jerk. You've posted this article deal 3 times that I know of, and I've voiced how many times it's already been posted. But admire your perstistance, so you can post away and I will cope. -4mycountry
34 posted on 10/18/2001 6:39:56 AM PDT by 4mycountry
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To: vannrox
Call or e-mail the congress, stop all Federal funding going to any institution in Berserkley.
35 posted on 10/18/2001 6:41:29 AM PDT by Lee Enfield
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To: Pissed Off Janitor
Pol-Pot was just missunderstood.

You idiot! I told you to slaughter the pheasants, not the peasants!

37 posted on 10/18/2001 7:48:48 AM PDT by gridlock
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To: vannrox

Boycott Berkeley

Here are the names of numbers of the members of the Berkeley City Council that voted in favor of condemning America. Call them and let them know what you think of their vote:

Name Number
Linda Mais 510-981-7110
Margaret Breland 510-981-7120
Maudelle Shirek 510-981-7130
Dona Spring 510-981-7140
Kriss Worthington 510-981-7170

38 posted on 10/18/2001 1:02:38 PM PDT by stripes1776
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To: stripes1776
bttt
39 posted on 10/18/2001 1:03:38 PM PDT by stripes1776
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To: stripes1776
bttt
40 posted on 10/18/2001 1:05:09 PM PDT by stripes1776
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